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The Sounds of the Universe article uses this archive URL in one of the citations: |archive-url=https://archive.today/20110616224142/http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/cd_reviews/article6098124.ece ... which generates an error that " {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help): |archive-url= is malformed: timestamp (help)".

The link works fine. Why is it flagged as an error? The documentation doesn't say what the requirements for archive.today URLs are. How can the error be fixed? -- mikeblas (talk) 21:25, 8 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

See #Archive error error above, and Help talk:Citation Style 1#Error with origin date for archive.today. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:38, 9 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I am writing a citation for a book related to Islamic culture, published in Saudi Arabia.

• bin Abdulhafeez Nawab, Zuhair; bin Ali Shavali, Jamal (1434 AH (2013 CE)). أَطْلَسُ طَرِيقِ الهِجْرَةِ النَّبَوِيَّةِ: مَعَ وَصْفٍ تَارِيخِيٍّ جُغْرَافِيٍّ جِيُولُوجِيٍّ لِلطَّرِيقِ [Atlas of the Prophetic Migration Route (Hijrah): With a Historical, Geographical, and Geological Description of the Route]. Jeddah: Saudi Geological Survey, Madinah Research and Studies Center, Kunuz Al-Ma'refah. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

The publication date is given according to the Hijri era (AH) Islamic calendar. The common era date is a guess because there is no 1:1 correspondence between years in the calendars.

Is there any method to specify a date in a different calendars? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:21, 7 June 2026 (UTC) Or at least to suppress the "error" message? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

No. You might do this:

{{cite book |script-title=ar:أَطْلَسُ طَرِيقِ الهِجْرَةِ النَّبَوِيَّةِ: مَعَ وَصْفٍ تَارِيخِيٍّ جُغْرَافِيٍّ جِيُولُوجِيٍّ لِلطَّرِيقِ |trans-title=Atlas of the Prophetic Migration Route (Hijrah): With a Historical, Geographical, and Geological Description of the Route |first1=Zuhair |last1=bin Abdulhafeez Nawab |first2= Jamal |last2=bin Ali Shavali |publisher= [[Saudi Geological Survey]], Madinah Research and Studies Center, Kunuz Al-Ma'refah |location=[[Jeddah]] |date=2013 |orig-date=1434 AH}}

bin Abdulhafeez Nawab, Zuhair; bin Ali Shavali, Jamal (2013) [1434 AH]. أَطْلَسُ طَرِيقِ الهِجْرَةِ النَّبَوِيَّةِ: مَعَ وَصْفٍ تَارِيخِيٍّ جُغْرَافِيٍّ جِيُولُوجِيٍّ لِلطَّرِيقِ [Atlas of the Prophetic Migration Route (Hijrah): With a Historical, Geographical, and Geological Description of the Route]. Jeddah: Saudi Geological Survey, Madinah Research and Studies Center, Kunuz Al-Ma'refah.

I googled the Arabic title and turned up several hits that used the 2013 publication date. One of them had this ISBN 978-603-90021-8-5. Both Google books and WorldCat show a 2013 publication date for that ISBN. So if a guess, 2013 seems to have been the correct guess.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

TYVM! I was helping another editor with the formatting, completely forgetting to try the obvious <blush>. I did consider using =orig-date= but thought that it was for reprints. But I see it works nicely never mind how we got there, so will suggest that. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:01, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

What is the proper way to cite a contribution in a book that does not have an identifiable author (or editor)? A practical example: Pulse dialing#cite note-6. — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 02:43, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I think it's OK to name "The Jolly Roger" as author; William Powell could be named (see The Anarchist Cookbook), but that's supposition. What about:

• The Jolly Roger (2000). "147.Phone Dial Locks – How to Beat'em" (PDF). Anarchy Cookbook version 2000. William Powell, original author. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2022-03-07.

-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:40, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I haven't seen the original, but comparing what the article says about it with the cited PDF file, it seems that the file ("version 2000") is quite different. This article (namely, its "A virtual cookbook" section) suggests that it might be attributable to Terrance Brown, although the earliest Internet Archive snapshot of the mentioned website ([1]) says: "The Anarchist Cookbook was originally written by the Jolly Roger in the mid 1980's. ... We have no connection with the author..." I didn't dig deeper to get their MS Word file for comparison. Nevertheless, most probably, leaving the citation as it is now (with just |author=The Jolly Roger) would be the best option. However, I still find the prohibition to have |contributor= without |author= (or at least explicitly stating that the author is unknown) rather meaningless. — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 04:38, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

In preview, Lifes Rich Pageant displays one normal Script warning for cite AV media notes, then displays "Script warning: {{cite AV media notes}}: this reference has maintenance messages Harv error: link from CITEREF_temp_preview_id_251770 doesn't point to any citation.; messages may be hidden (help)."

Possibly related, the article is listed at Category:Pages with duplicate reference names, but that category does not display at the bottom of the page, and a null edit does not clear the page from the category.

Also possibly related: Parsoid. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:07, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Following up: Editing with the legacy parser shows a red error message for the duplicated citation (which appears to have the same content in both citation templates), and it shows the category. I have added this info to T423924. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:11, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Here's a simplified example that shows the big red confusing error message in preview. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:30, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Jonesey95: Pretty sure this is closely related to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Categorized, but unflagged multiply defined reference. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:41, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Indeed. I linked to this discussion from that one. The duplicate references category is probably not the purview of this talk page, but the strange harv error message probably is. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:50, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

At line 34 in your vector-2022.js, you load the Ucucha HarvErrors.js script. That script is the source of the harv error message. Module:Citation/CS1 sees two {{cite AV media notes}} templates which each cause the module to emit a CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes) message and at more-or-less the same time to add the preview warning.

When creating the preview warning for templates that do not have contributor / author / editor and date from which to create a CITEREF anchor, the module creates a CITEREF anchor from a concatenation of the static text _temp_preview_id_ and a pseudo random six-digit number. Because named references are combined by whichever parser, only one CITEREF_temp_preview_id_XXXXXX anchor exits in the rendered html. In preview, these same-named references will not be identical because the maintenance message causes the creation of unique anchor IDs. When Ucucha HarvErrors.js cannot find a target for a preview warning message, it emits the Harv error: link from CITEREF_temp_preview_id_XXXXXX doesn't point to any citation message.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:31, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for that diagnosis. So it appears that there are no errors in the underlying code. Completing the update to Parsoid should fix the category issues. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:02, 7 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

In SoHo Weekly News I have: Duberman, Martin (May – June 2015). "Doug Ireland's Passion and Praxis". The Gay & Lesbian Review. Retrieved 2026-08-10. {{cite magazine}}: Check date values in: |date= (help), which generates a " Check date values in: |date=" error. It's obviously not happy with the May-June thing, but that's the date given in the source, so what to do? RoySmith (talk) 10:50, 10 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

May–June 2015 per MOS:DATERANGE.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:01, 10 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

That did it, thanks. The CS1 error message really could be improved :-) RoySmith (talk) 12:07, 10 August 2026 (UTC)Reply