Sub-culture (song)

"Sub-culture"
"Sub-culture"
Single by New Order
from the album Low-Life
B-side	"Dub-vulture"
Released	28 October 1985
Genre	Hi-NRG; techno-pop;
Length	4:58 (Album version) ; 7:26 (12" remix) ; 3:28 (7-inch version) ; 4:48 (Substance 1987 version)
Label	Factory - FAC 133
Songwriter(s)	Gillian Gilbert; Peter Hook; Stephen Morris; Bernard Sumner;
Producer(s)	New Order
New Order singles chronology

"Sub-culture" is the tenth single by English rock band New Order. It was released as the second and final single from their third studio album, Low-Life (1985) on 28 October 1985 by Factory Records.

Release

The single release, remixed by John Robie, is a drastic departure from the album version of the track. Robie's 12" and 7" single mixes feature more club-oriented, electronic instrumentation and prominent soulful female backing vocals.^{[citation needed]}

The B-side is an instrumental remix titled "Dub-vulture". An alternate seven-inch edit of the Robie remix taken from the Benelux version of the "Sub-culture" single appears on the group's 1987 compilation, Substance. This version also appears on the US 12" alongside the longer mixes.^{[citation needed]}

A collection of Razormaid remixes of the track were released in 1986, which include additional vocals by Deborah Iyall of Romeo Void.^[4]

Artwork

"Sub-culture" has only a regular black sleeve, as graphic designer Peter Saville reportedly deemed the mix of the song unworthy of his talents.^[5] Saville's input was present only in a P/S/A (Peter Saville Associates) credit for typography.^[6] However this rumour was debunked in 2017 when Saville stated, "I never had the authority to say that there shouldn't be a sleeve. No, all I can presume is that one was not asked for."^[7]

Track listing

All tracks are written by Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Bernard Sumner

7": 7FAC 133 (UK)
No.	Title	Length
1.	"Sub-culture"	3:28
2.	"Dub-vulture"	3:38

7": 7FAC 133 (Benelux)
No.	Title	Length
1.	"Sub-culture" (Remix Edit)	4:57
2.	"Sub-culture" (Original Album Version)	4:58

12": FAC 133 (UK)
No.	Title	Length
1.	"Sub-culture"	7:26
2.	"Dub-vulture"	7:57

12": Qwest 0-20390 (US)
No.	Title	Length
1.	"Sub-culture" (Remix)	7:26
2.	"Subvulture"	7:57
3.	"Sub-culture" (Remix Edit)	4:57

UK 7" free with Record Mirror - RM2

New Order: "Sub-culture" (exclusive remix) – 4:14
Raymonde: "Jennifer Wants" (exclusive track) – 2:02
Hipsway: "Bad Thing Longing" (preview from their forthcoming album) – 4:09
Adventures: "Walk Away Renee" (specially recorded for RM) – 3:11

Chart positions

Chart (1985)	Peak position
New Zealand RIANZ Singles Chart^[8]	29
UK Singles Chart^[9]	63
UK Independent Singles Chart^[10]	1
US Billboard Hot Dance Club Play^[11]	35
US Billboard Hot Dance Singles Sales^[11]	18

References

^ Harrison, Ian (2 February 2023). "Joy Division And New Order's Top Ten Albums". Mojo. Bauer Media Group. Archived from the original on 14 March 2023. Retrieved 8 March 2023.
^ Shade, Chris (2016). "New Order - Low-Life". In Dimery, Robert (ed.). 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die. London: Cassell Illustrated. p. 541.
^ ASCAP entry
^ "New Order:DJ Remixes:Sub-culture". www.niagara.edu. Retrieved 2016-08-27.
^ "New Order Discography".
^ "Factory Records: FAC 133 NEW ORDER Sub-culture". Retrieved 27 August 2016.
^ "New Order--Sub-Culture". Discogs. 1985. Retrieved 28 February 2022.
^ ""Discography New Order". charts.nz. Retrieved 2010-11-23.
^ "The Official Charts Company: New Order". Official Charts Company. Retrieved 2008-10-02.
^ "Indie Hits "N"". Cherry Red Records. Archived from the original on 2011-06-06. Retrieved 2 Oct 2008.
^ ^a ^b "New Order: Billboard singles". Allmusic. Retrieved 2010-11-23.

[1] Harrison, Ian (2 February 2023). "Joy Division And New Order's Top Ten Albums". Mojo. Bauer Media Group. Archived from the original on 14 March 2023. Retrieved 8 March 2023.

[Shade_2016-2] Shade, Chris (2016). "New Order - Low-Life". In Dimery, Robert (ed.). 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die. London: Cassell Illustrated. p. 541.

[ASCAP-3] ASCAP entry

[4] "New Order:DJ Remixes:Sub-culture". www.niagara.edu. Retrieved 2016-08-27.

[5] "New Order Discography".

[6] "Factory Records: FAC 133 NEW ORDER Sub-culture". Retrieved 27 August 2016.

[7] "New Order--Sub-Culture". Discogs. 1985. Retrieved 28 February 2022.

[nz_charts-8] ""Discography New Order". charts.nz. Retrieved 2010-11-23.

[chartstats-9] "The Official Charts Company: New Order". Official Charts Company. Retrieved 2008-10-02.

[cherryred.co.uk-10] "Indie Hits "N"". Cherry Red Records. Archived from the original on 2011-06-06. Retrieved 2 Oct 2008.

[amgsingles-11] "New Order: Billboard singles". Allmusic. Retrieved 2010-11-23.

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