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Kamis, 2026-04-02 03:37:37Constantinople); and since it was also the Frankish kings who pushed the Filioque controversy, as discussed in the article; and since the resulting Great...
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Rabu, 2024-01-17 11:04:05Relevant archived discussion at → Talk:Filioque/Archive_5#Lossky in Kulakov I copied improved references from Filioque (this revision) and copied {{discuss}}...
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Sabtu, 2023-03-04 13:20:06word "filioque" could be called a "phrase," but it is really (in Latin) only a word. Why, then, does the page "Filioque" redirect to "Filioque clause"...
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Sabtu, 2024-02-03 18:14:03how to resolve it and one of the things that we've talk about was the "Filioque" controversy. I ask him that what if they only replace it with through...
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Jumat, 2013-09-06 08:48:10chief patristic source(s) for the Latin teaching on the filioque." The LATIN TEACHING ON THE FILIOQUE. NOT JUST a support for the phrase "Father and Son"...
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Senin, 2025-06-02 19:08:51neo-Palamitic School," argue that the Filioque affects their "understanding of the Church" since, according to Kasper, the Filioque for them "seems to link the...
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Rabu, 2023-02-01 03:46:50add the theological refutations of the filioque from Niketas Byzantinos. The argument of why does the filioque not make the Holy Spirit a grandson and...
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Jumat, 2017-07-07 07:19:31without consensus) The Eastern Orthodox view of the filioque The Eastern Orthodox view the Filioque as not proper to the actual Nicene Creed. This is because...
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Rabu, 2011-04-27 12:52:46into Greek categories, he calmed the worries of the Greeks and, while Filioque continued to be used in the West, both sides recognized that, in spite...
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Selasa, 2025-12-09 00:55:13(talk) 02:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC) If the Filioque was not added until the sixth-century, how is the Filioque present in a text from the fourth century...
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Jumat, 2025-04-18 22:49:19Sources of Catholic Dogma, DS 86, which show Dionysius Exiguus having the filioque in the creed prior to his death in 544 AD. This precedes this council and...
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Minggu, 2015-11-22 09:14:17of Augustine," about the double procession of the Holy Spirit using a filioque idiom. A double procession of the Holy Spirit is also found, in the 330s...
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Jumat, 2025-02-28 09:42:51The filioque page focuses specifically on the debate on whom the Holy Spirit proceeds from, however it does not focus much on the concept of procession...
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Minggu, 2026-03-22 18:23:26I have created a merger discussion on the talkpage of filioque. Boynamedsue (talk) 11:23, 22 March 2026 (UTC)...
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Minggu, 2024-02-04 13:07:18Henry II. was the emperor who forced the Pope to accept the "filioque". I doubt that his wife is an Orthodox Saint. 131.220.75.120 (talk) 13:36, 16 March...
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Senin, 2021-06-28 00:51:53ciations on every point on the article about the filioque itself ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filioque the notion that many popes arguing against the...
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Jumat, 2024-02-02 16:11:37roman-catholic : it does not contain the usual "merits" theology nor the "filioque," both caracteristics of roman-catholic theology. The Merovingians, from...
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Selasa, 2025-01-28 13:12:36article currently says that he "proposed a revision to the so-called "Filioque clause" in the Nicene Creed." This is clearly a significant theological...
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Kamis, 2026-02-05 03:05:39University Press 2005 ISBN 978-0-19-280290-3), s.v. Filioque "but Pope Leo III opposed adding "Filioque" to the Creed, while approving the doctrine" Some...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 13:03:51prepared to edit a sentence on the Nicene creed can really be ignorant of the filioque, yet a certain editor who, as anyone can see from his earlier edits clearly...
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Senin, 2026-03-23 08:24:14statement. Furthermore, the article's extensive preoccupation with the Filioque and the Papacy has very much to do with Catholic/Orthodox theological disputes...
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Jumat, 2024-01-19 11:12:16doctrinal innovations (such as abolition of the married priesthood, the filioque clause, purgatory, and having one supreme bishop, the "Pope of Rome", who...
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Senin, 2016-06-06 04:50:28the Filioque to the Nicene Creed. In the end, Pope what's-his-name surrendered to the grass-roots movement and sanctioned the addition of the Filioque to...
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Sabtu, 2026-01-03 16:07:43East—that drove the addition of “Filioque” to the Creed as recited in the West. In the final analysis, the “Filioque” controversy seems more a product...
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Rabu, 2020-06-03 03:45:19worthy of a document to itself. --Penumbra 2k 15:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC) The Filioque is parenthesized in the Latin and English, but not in the Greek; should...
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Senin, 2024-02-26 07:04:18accusations of semi-arianism have often come up in later controversies over the filioque, with one side implicitly or explicitly accusing the other of being unorthodox...
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Senin, 2025-02-17 04:37:38had been Arians until then. [edit] The Franks and the filioque After the Visigoths, the filioque was also accepted as part of the Creed by the Franks,...
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Senin, 2024-01-29 20:15:02exist. Kingdon 23:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC) The article says The lack of this filioque clause may have been due to limit of space, focus of theme, restrictions...
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Senin, 2026-08-10 06:03:57and not an enlargement of the Creed of Nicaea. The so-called Filioque clause (Latin filioque, “and from the son”), inserted after the words “the Holy Spirit...
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Sabtu, 2025-07-26 08:36:56it was still in communion with Eastern Orthodoxy and did not adopt the filioque or question the power of the papacy within the Pentarchy...
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Minggu, 2024-02-11 10:30:09following changes: Added {{dead link}} tag to http://www.scoba.us/resources/filioque-p02.as Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20051120081701/http://www...
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Senin, 2023-03-20 21:02:17text says "Et in Spiritum Sanctum, Dominum et vivificantem, qui ex Patre Filioque procedit". That's the same as the English version, except that the sentence...
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Rabu, 2026-04-29 18:10:10of us left below can watch the fights over iotas of difference or the filioque. DECREE XVIII. We believe that the souls of those that have fallen asleep...
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Kamis, 2016-04-14 08:14:27for using the Filioque, but didn't and couldn't attack the Pope on that matter, since the Pope had not yet accepted inclusion of Filioque in the Creed...
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Kamis, 2024-02-15 10:24:28Dictionary of the Christian Church ed. F.L. Lucas (Oxford) entry on Paul From Filioque: [1] I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just...
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Rabu, 2010-07-21 06:57:56think?) the Orthodox bishops agreed to submit to the Pope and insert the filioque clause into the Nicene Creed in exchange for military aid against the attacking...
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Kamis, 2026-01-22 18:16:47because it isn't. Yes, the western church added the 'and the son' (see Filioque), but there were already revisions operating. --MichaelTinkler I would...
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Rabu, 2020-09-23 15:17:36I do not like the use of the word "filioque", instead of the word "Union", so the phrases “accepted the filioque in the name of the whole Metropolis...
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Senin, 2026-02-09 21:22:14filioque-church-dividing-issue-english.cfmAgreed to http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/dialogue-with-others/ecumenical/orthodox/filioque...
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Rabu, 2024-01-31 06:38:03same thing all along (how could it?). What you say sounds rather like the Filioque dispute (far later even than Chalcedon) that involves the Greek word ἐκπορευόμενον...
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Kamis, 2026-01-01 21:13:48original text. These additions do not include "Filioque". Even Latin Catholics do not include "Filioque" when reciting the Nicene Creed in Greek, since...
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Minggu, 2023-04-02 11:01:52of the Trinity was developed. This is connected to Christology and the filioque but there's more to it than just that. The critical point that I think...
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Senin, 2026-03-30 13:11:57the Son" (an obvious refernce to later Roman Catholic teaching on the Filioque); however, the text of the creed, as presented in the article, does not...
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Rabu, 2025-07-30 04:34:45one may certainly say it provides implication). 6. It also includes the filioque which would also exclude the Eastern Orthodox who split from the Roman...
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Kamis, 2026-08-13 01:39:59including the Filioque, was sung for the first time at a papal Mass. Because of this action, the liturgical use of the Creed, with the Filioque, now was generally...
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Jumat, 2021-08-13 20:14:04that I have contributed too while before your interaction with me and the filioque and the East West schism articles you Esoglou never contributed too. You...
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Rabu, 2024-01-31 06:30:18soon was the Filioque clause inserted into the Nicene Creed after the council of Nicea? After the East-West Schism? Nope. The Filioque clause was a direct...
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Sabtu, 2024-05-18 22:44:57role of the Holy Spirit proceeding from the father (or amongst western Filioque Christians from Father and Son) is not in substance radically different...
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Minggu, 2025-11-30 14:58:27of the Mass. It is interesting to note that he made no mention of the Filioque. http://www.geocities.com/ambrosius397/crisis.htm?200720#_ftnref16 Hieromonk...
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Rabu, 2026-03-18 03:52:25perhaps best known in most Orthodox circles for his introduction of the filioque to Rome." I am not sure who made this edit, but I am writing here to let...
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Senin, 2026-06-29 13:50:19missa brevis's in the same light again. I question the parenthesis of the filioque and thus am putting it fully into the text -- since Mass is a Western term...
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Minggu, 2023-03-19 20:30:14of the primacy." Jean-Claude Larchet [fr] wrote that together with the Filioque controversy, differences in interpretation of this doctrine have been and...
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Rabu, 2023-01-18 19:53:37current one but using singular. The Filioque should be included but bracketed. May I ask why the reference to the Filioque controversy was removed? Str1977...
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Rabu, 2025-11-05 01:28:01contributors consider that those Christians, for the former believed in the filioque and papal supremacy, and for the latter were Palamists and believed in...
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Minggu, 2023-03-26 09:20:21the Filioque from the Wikipedia article. The sentence in the lead reads... While the Eastern Orthodox Church has never formally declared the "Filioque" phrase...
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Kamis, 2024-02-01 13:35:37with the entry. please explain. Medieval and modern disputes over the Filioque have re-awoken ancient controversies over monarchianism, with Eastern Orthodox...
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Kamis, 2023-06-01 09:41:12section on the "Filioque" from the article. In the first place, it appears to be referencing mostly Spanish Adoptionism, not the Filioque (despite the lines...
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Rabu, 2019-05-29 00:04:08Collapse The article says that Stephen V "ordered" the inclusion of the filioque. But Vlasto (p. 81) says that he "urged" it. Display name 99 (talk) 20:43...
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Kamis, 2025-05-22 15:06:18and increasingly on the basis of theology. The Western Church added the Filioque clause to its creeds (the confession that the Holy Spirit proceeded from...
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Sabtu, 2015-06-13 09:47:40Would whichever wonderful soul who re-writes this page please research or consider the correct pronoun to use when describing the Holy Spirit in this type...
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Senin, 2026-06-15 10:52:00Hours. Aloysius Patacsil 20:35, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC) Does verse 23 have a filioque addition? Or was it always like that? --Audiovideo 13:45, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)...
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Sabtu, 2026-03-21 23:13:19May 2014 (UTC) Of course it's Filioque. I was just doing the mistake continuously during typing. Sorry. Mr.Esoglou, Filioque is not a result of a latin Nicene...
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Minggu, 2017-12-24 18:14:14tried to with force, make the Eastern Orthodox recite the filioque, and or put the filioque in the Eastern Orthodox's recitation of the Nicene Creed (in...
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Selasa, 2025-11-18 20:37:52the very reason the Great Schism happened was papal supremacy and the filioque, which this council rejects. The description and title either way affirms...
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Rabu, 2023-02-01 13:03:482009 (UTC) I believe most Protestants also subscribe to Filioque. They certainly use the Filioque form of the Creeds, and the reference is from a Protestant...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 09:13:14western doctrine that the Holy Spirit came from the Father and the Son (filioque), and not the Father alone; in reality, however, there were a number of...
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Selasa, 2026-07-14 18:00:03agreements on such matters as papal primacy, the insertion of the phrase "Filioque" to the Creed and purgatory, a novelty only recently a part of the Latin-speaking...
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Jumat, 2026-04-24 23:38:53refers to results of Nicene and Constantinopole creeds, the disputes of Filioque clause, leading later to separation of churches, and 1500 year battle for...
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Minggu, 2017-12-24 18:14:17tried to with force, make the Eastern Orthodox recite the filioque, and or put the filioque in the Eastern Orthodox's recitation of the Nicene Creed (in...
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Senin, 2024-11-11 19:12:29original text, like the Latin liturgical text's additions Deum de Deo and Filioque. For instance, the second line in the Armenian text is more like the 325...
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Sabtu, 2025-06-14 08:21:36Collapse The article says that Stephen V "ordered" the inclusion of the filioque. But Vlasto (p. 81) says that he "urged" it. Display name 99 (talk) 20:43...
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Senin, 2012-07-02 09:46:01Patriarch/Metropolitan are "more canonical", so to speak, whether the Filioque clause is a heresy or not, whether the Pope is infallible and which translation...
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Sabtu, 2026-01-03 16:49:10explicit similarity I'm aware of is the fact that the Old Catholics omit the filioque clause from the Nicene Creed. One Old Catholic priest told me, though,...
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Jumat, 2021-08-13 20:14:02hounded me on at least three other articles (theosis, East-West schism and filioque). LoveMonkey (talk) 17:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC) Now, after letting off...
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Minggu, 2018-10-14 00:33:23understanding" of the filioque fact or opinion? That the trinity was borrowed from Pagan sources - is it fact or opinion? No, it is not that the filioque is fact or...
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Selasa, 2023-02-21 09:49:1411:09, 23 March 2022 (UTC) We are getting perilously close to debating the filioque here! But yes, I concur that given the proliferation of doctrines and creeds...
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Kamis, 2019-12-05 12:03:42key doctrinal divisions between east and west" - were there? Really only Filioque was "doctrinal", and it is hard to call that "key". I did this. The source...
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Senin, 2023-01-16 01:27:26churches has more to do with pneumatology than Christology; the infamous filioque clause. The difference between the Christology of the Catholic and Protestant...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 23:48:11section as POV? At what point did the Nicene Creed in the East include the filioque? Please show me evidence that it did. As the allegation that it did by...
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Senin, 2026-05-11 14:51:53by many Yiddish speakers - is an English word, then correspondingly, "Filioque" needs to be on the list of Yiddish words borrowed from English. Right...
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Kamis, 2025-09-25 13:17:51words but remember, many heresies centered around one word – theandric, filioque, etc, and such words took hundreds of years to do their damage.--Phiddipus...
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Jumat, 2021-08-13 20:13:46if you wish Filioque, comment if you wish Origin and procession of the Holy Spirit, comment if you wish West acceptance of the Filioque, comment if you...
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Jumat, 2024-10-04 21:44:15tergum regis, abruptisque clam regalis indumenti fimbriis, in aqua posuit filioque bibendum dedit; statimque, restincta febre, sanatus est. Quod non habetur...
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Kamis, 2023-07-20 08:24:12the Filioque, Exsurge Domine, Filioque, History of Eastern Orthodox Christian theology, History of the East–West Schism, History of the Filioque controversy...
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Sabtu, 2026-03-21 05:39:15of their ethnic enclaves. The Greeks, God bless 'em, still talk about filioque like it happened yesterday, and the Siege of Constantinople as well, is...
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Jumat, 2015-10-09 07:03:12as I can still remember the horrible treatment here that I got on the Filioque article and the theological article (Eastern Orthodox – Roman Catholic...
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Rabu, 2025-12-24 11:28:22excludes the filioque. The book also offers a less commonly used form in the language of the 1962 BCP, which does include the filioque. Fr.Jesse69.172...
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Selasa, 2023-05-23 21:56:04And when I say exactly the same, I mean they even say the Creed without filioque during mass. Of course, for theological purposes they will use the regular...
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Selasa, 2024-03-05 17:58:402009-01-23T02:34:53 Copied Primacy of the Bishop of Rome (oldid, history) → Filioque (diff) on 2011-11-04T12:13:46 Copied Primacy of the Bishop of Rome (oldid...
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Selasa, 2020-04-21 04:07:48article. He seems to be pushing an Eastern Orthodox view regarding the filioque clause, rather than pushing a humanist or atheist view regarding the origins...
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Jumat, 2025-12-05 21:48:57Catholics, differing from them mainly with regard to papal infallibility, the filioque clause and the immaculate conception of Mary. Protestant churches vary...
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Minggu, 2026-02-08 05:49:10traditional language with contemporary language as well as removing the filioque per the 1994 GC resolution. It's not yet, and may not be in it's current...
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Sabtu, 2023-03-11 15:16:00whole article seems desperate to avoid any specifics - I don't think the Filioque controversy is even linked yet anywhere. Your draft is far more POV in...
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Senin, 2025-01-20 10:02:10sin is contrary to the Greek tradition, for example. And of course the filioque clause. Were the doctrinal differences exaggerated to serve political ends...
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Minggu, 2021-02-07 13:19:33creed has been used as a touchstone of Chrstianity for centuries, with Filioque being the only dispute. Wikipedia is not a place to argue about what a...
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Kamis, 2022-06-09 13:06:02whether things needed to be worked out and agreed upon in council. The filioque clause dispute wound up being the final straw, when neither side would...
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Senin, 2025-02-17 04:39:36would not significantly impair general understanding. These include: "Filioque clause, Knights of Columbus, etc." The low-classification of the importance...
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Senin, 2023-01-30 04:20:36etc., but I don't know of any differences in doctrine aside from the Filioque clause. I agree, however, that it would be good to provide explicit Orthodox...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 13:04:12and explaining the Filioque was possibly objectionable to Eastern Orthodox, as it implies that the full text includes the Filioque. Also, IMHO the simpler...
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Sabtu, 2025-08-16 02:15:17the PoC rejoined the Roman Catholic Church in full Communion (with the filioque out of the way and active negociations on the subject, that could happen...
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Jumat, 2021-08-13 20:13:54understand the extent to which this issue divides the two churches. The Filioque is the famed point of contention. Do we have sources that refer to this...
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Kamis, 2023-08-03 16:55:41procession of the Holy Ghost is decided chiefly because of the lack of the Filioque clause in the oldest text of the Creed. The creation is traced in Greek...
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Rabu, 2021-12-01 19:51:47about the content" Incorrect. I wrote in my edit summaries: “disambiguated Filioque sentence” [1] “rm off-topic (for this section) Protestants clause, pointless...
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Minggu, 2025-07-13 23:01:16the attempts of Roman Catholic Church to force them into accepting the Filioque interpolation and doctrine of double procession of the Holy Spirit. Numerous...
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Selasa, 2016-05-03 03:36:42the Holy Spirit does not "proceed from the Father and the Son" as the filioque clause says; for although the Spirit was sent by Jesus to the Church after...
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Minggu, 2021-06-27 23:33:32of the separations are many. One could mention many controversies like filioque, sola fides, Sacred Tradition, etc., but the Apocrypha is not a major cause...
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Minggu, 2025-01-19 00:46:49the old Pagan guard in the East in specific the Mystery Religions. The filioque is exactly this. That while the Pagans had started to make the Hebrew faith...
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Rabu, 2022-06-08 05:50:0010 November 2008 (UTC) That’s just it; the addition to the creed of the filioque clause by the Roman Catholics is considered by Orthodox theologians to...
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Senin, 2025-04-14 18:54:42use the Creed, but disagree with the Catholics over the latter's use of 'filioque'. To the Orthodox, the Catholics were the first Protestants. However, the...
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Jumat, 2023-02-03 23:30:08content of the article and the Orthodox position outlined in it from the filioque article. Other Orthodox see what they are doing and it is understood that...
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Rabu, 2022-11-23 06:29:15problem, notably in emeding the Nicene Creed by unilaterally asserting the filioque clause. This was felt to be in violation of the ecumenical spirit in which...
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Senin, 2025-03-17 00:31:00that revolutionary to them (unless already caught up in those nice pre-filioque controversies). So, is it that interesting? Last: shouldn't the Arabic...
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Selasa, 2021-08-17 15:00:24result of theological differences not the least was the addition of the Filioque clause to the Nicene Creed which to the Eastern Orthodox is a gross violation...
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Rabu, 2023-02-01 12:25:24the bishop of Rome and the Filioque — were involved... but someone must have changed that. I am fairly sure that Filioque is not found in the New Testiment...
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Rabu, 2022-06-08 07:26:41the liturgical season. If that's not enough there's always the obscure Filioque clause argument; though I think Pentecostals probably use the Apostles...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 13:03:56examples can you suggest? KHM03 18:08, 18 February 2006 (UTC) Coverage of the filioque looks fine to me (for this article). Two small changes I would make in...
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Selasa, 2023-01-17 19:53:00depose leaders (bishops or kings) in those days, so he chose to enforce the Filioque clause addition from a long ago Spanish council in his territory and declared...
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Senin, 2024-11-04 06:34:40in all the orthodox Greek and Russian Catechisms. It is also (with the Filioque) in liturgical use in the Roman (since about the sixth century), and in...
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Jumat, 2022-03-25 04:41:48Nicene Creed really is pretty fundamental, and the argument s over the filioque cause which is (or isn't) part of it are also a large part of the eventual...
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Jumat, 2022-04-01 11:07:23inherited guilt. 3) regarding the Great Schism, you might also look at the filioque clause article. It did take a long time for the schism to happen, and it's...
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Jumat, 2025-04-04 01:12:44that the Filioque isn't an innovation? Arians taught that the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Son, and the Third Council of Toledo added "filioque" to the...
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Jumat, 2021-08-13 20:13:56inadequate. What the ontology of God is can not ever contain such a concept as filioque. Why? Because to confuse God's being with God's nature and then God's interaction...
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Rabu, 2026-08-12 21:36:00regarded the Western Church as schismatic because of its addition of the filioque to the Nicene Creed. More generally, the East did not take so severe a...
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Rabu, 2022-06-08 05:16:03generation and procession", when a sentence alone directing the reader to the Filioque article would be enough. Surely nobody thinks that this article needs the...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 13:04:16still recited in the Catholic mass and in the Orthodox liturgy (modulo the Filioque difference), as a recapitulation of faith; if I'm correct here, wouldn't...
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Minggu, 2022-05-22 15:43:29September 2010 (UTC) Esoglou has now followed me from the East-West schism, filioque, Roman Catholic–Eastern Orthodox theological differences, theosis articles...
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Rabu, 2009-05-06 08:32:17establish why apostolic succession is important. In order to understand the filioque controversy, you have to understand that Christians are Trinitarian. In...
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Selasa, 2020-04-21 04:09:23do need to clarify that "standard Trinitarianism" (with or without the filioque) is THE issue which divides (mainstream) Christians from those who name...
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Minggu, 2025-08-24 19:21:05these two kings, but internet queries get into a tangle of views on the filioque controversy and possible links to ex-patriot Russians and Moscow as the...
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Minggu, 2021-02-07 13:20:52that these hair have always mattered to traditional Christianity. As the filioque clause article points out, the split between orthodoxy and Arianism in...
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Sabtu, 2012-05-05 01:42:33churches there are disagreements about various details, for example, the filioque issue, or subordinationism. ...comments? ~BFizz 17:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)...
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Minggu, 2024-11-03 21:50:05also disregarded papal authority. The Third Council of Toledo added the filioque despite the fact that popes opposed its addition. Councils of the western...
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Kamis, 2023-07-20 09:30:16edits Toledo and the filioque - the classic case of selective rule application 9 Talk:Papal primacy/Archive 4#Toledo and the filioque - the classic case...
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Jumat, 2025-01-17 06:48:29theological arguments over the relationship between members of the Trinity (see Filioque). Eastern churches which either maintained communion with Rome or later...
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Kamis, 2017-11-02 06:17:56good source, and also removed the reference to "the addition of the [[filioque clause]] to the [[Nicene Creed]].)," a point which, since its removal,...
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Sabtu, 2025-05-03 01:10:22of 1054 and 1204. Likewise, such developments as the addition of the 'filioque,' papal infallibility, the Marian dogmas in Catholicism, and the ordination...
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Selasa, 2024-06-18 19:52:35com/TynBul/Library/TynBull_1983_34_04_Bray_FilioqueInHistory.pdf to http://www.tyndalehouse.com/TynBul/Library/TynBull_1983_34_04_Bray_FilioqueInHistory.pdf Added archive...
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Rabu, 2024-05-08 13:44:12with other phrases brought to special attention through the creeds: e.g., Filioque and Homoousia). It has been the pivotal reference place for explaining...
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Minggu, 2026-02-22 15:11:13the amount of blood that has been spilled by people who didn't find the filioque clause obscure or subtle. To the extent those qualities are real, they...
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Sabtu, 2026-04-25 10:06:17Schism/Archive 1#First section Insertion of filioque 5 Talk:East–West Schism/Archive 1#Insertion of filioque Should this article be merged with this one...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 06:35:16regional councils, such as Trullo in 692, Toledo in 587 which added the filioque to the Nicene Creed, etc. Trent is also an example of a regional (western)...
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Senin, 2025-07-21 19:09:11autocephaly to the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, not over things like the Filioque or use of unleavened bread in the Eucharist. One last point I want to make...
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Minggu, 2023-03-12 12:35:28would not accept either the Nicaean-Constantinople creed [with or without Filioque, Apostles' creed, or Athanasion Creed. Arguably what makes Christians so...
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Sabtu, 2011-01-22 12:08:14works labeled hereticial as Palamas taught that there was no accepting the filioque for example. People whom already part ways with Palamas on this critical...
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Jumat, 2025-12-05 21:57:29of Catholics, differing mainly with regard to papal infallibility, the filioque clause and the Immaculate Conception of Mary.[59][60] The various Protestant...
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Jumat, 2025-01-31 12:09:49"The two most important required changes included the removal of the filioque from the Nicene Creed and the addition of an epiclesis which specifically...
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Kamis, 2023-03-02 17:40:39know that Eastern Catholics are permitted to recite the Creed without the filioque. However, East and West have over the years come to an agreement about...
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Rabu, 2018-08-08 19:22:45Lossky AGAIN. So now that Esoglou has edit warred on the following articles filioque, Roman Catholic-Eastern Orthodox theological differences, East West Schism...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 18:24:34single word (single in Latin) to a canonical statement of faith. See: filioque You also edited out a criticism on the fourth crusade. It would be helpful...
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Sabtu, 2017-07-22 19:34:26problem, notably in emeding the Nicene Creed by unilaterally asserting the filioque clause. This was felt to be in violation of the ecumenical spirit in which...
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Rabu, 2023-06-21 04:01:42Roman-Chatolic Church. Now , there, the patriach said the creed with the filioque clause in it and at arrival in Constantinople the patriarch was almost...
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Rabu, 2023-01-04 01:45:23rules, screaming an etiquette equivalent to "Spiritus Sanctus ex Patre Filioque procedit." I am hardly one to sneer at referencing (believe me, nothing...
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Rabu, 2022-06-08 07:45:08up and started reverting my edits and rewriting them. Starting with the filioque article then East-West schism then Roman Catholic–Eastern Orthodox theological...
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Selasa, 2021-08-17 15:04:27suddenly in 1054. The split was almost complete when the pope added the filioque clause to the creed in Charlemagne's time. The real basis for the split...
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Sabtu, 2021-10-23 14:02:45primarily political; it did have a theological element, but that was the Filioque, a controversy that arose later. All of these controversies can be seen...
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Rabu, 2023-12-06 03:36:18or his humanity, at the expense of the other. The introduction of the filioque clause runs such a risk; certainly the Roman Catholic statement that the...
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Jumat, 2023-12-01 22:58:22to an answer to this. (Hence the dubious tag; any article which omits filioque in discussing the Schism is open to doubt.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson...
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Sabtu, 2024-10-26 05:49:43Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son, in what is known as the "Filioque". comments: completed. Final comments: The section is mostly completed...
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Minggu, 2018-08-26 04:55:17like to call them). The Othodox/Catholic split was the big one, over the filioque clause, which today nobody can either recognise, pronounce or recite, but...
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Jumat, 2025-02-14 22:07:57the word "original" would better serve the purpose of getting around the filioque clause. As for referencing the Creed (item 4), I have no problem with that...
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Sabtu, 2024-09-28 02:32:24it can be understood by non-Muslims. (I don't expect you to understand filioque either. I don't understand it either.) Also, provide a short paragraph...
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Selasa, 2023-07-25 06:49:00and has no source. Many Roman Catholic Church doctrines, especially the filioque, Purgatory, etc. developed out of Aristotelian reason, but this movement...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 13:04:33proposed change here first to make sure there are no NPOV issues with the Filioque clause etc. Sophia 16:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC) I have left a message...
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Selasa, 2021-09-28 23:28:52of administrative, liturgical, and doctrinal issues, most notably the Filioque clause and papal primacy of jurisdiction. The Second Council of Lyons (1274)...
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Jumat, 2017-07-07 08:43:32believe there are some differences between Catholics and Orthodox (the filioque) and Catholic and Protestant (personally, I can't see any reason why God...
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Rabu, 2026-04-22 19:50:38doctrine. My understanding was that the C of E regards the Nicene Creed (with Filioque?) as useful/binding and the Apostolic Creed as a useful summary at baptism...
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Selasa, 2023-05-16 05:34:40out (using fairly dirty politics) during the Council of Nicaea. Also see filioque, Homoousian. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 23:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC) The scripture...
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Minggu, 2025-02-09 06:03:17this title when it submitted itself to heresy in 1014 by adopting the filioque clause. The Eastern Orthodox consider the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople...
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Minggu, 2017-10-22 07:04:53Christian articles on Wiki-here with WP:Synth and WP:OR. (i.e. theoria, filioque, East-West schism, Essence–Energies distinction etc etc) They are time...
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Kamis, 2019-06-13 00:49:37Greek) that lead to the theological issues behind the Great Schism (the filioque) and many of the later developments in Roman Catholicism opposed by the...
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Sabtu, 2008-11-15 02:26:02understood the relationship between the persons, even a discussion of the filioque controversy, subordinationism, etc. --CTSWyneken 15:23, 4 November 2005...
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Senin, 2024-03-04 20:10:13than refutes my perception that your understanding is flawed. Between the filioque clause (which sometimes apparently leads some Roman Catholics to call the...
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Selasa, 2023-01-31 13:18:39me the question is when did the C. of E. cease to be Orthodox? When the filioque was introduced, whenever that was? When communion between Rome and Constantinople...
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Jumat, 2025-12-05 22:08:47text evolved afterwards. The fact that the "final" version (modulo the Filioque) was promulgated by the Council of Constantinople is a relatively minor...
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Rabu, 2023-04-19 21:35:50to a lesser extent given the doctrine of Papal Infallibility (see also Filioque). Most Protestant Denominations agree with the Nicene creed but the predominant...
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Sabtu, 2026-02-07 09:19:20service for the catechumenate. The Nicene Creed is prayed everywhere: no filioque. Statement of intention is continuous and repeated in all Orthodox worship...
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Sabtu, 2023-04-15 04:58:27and also created what is considered heresy with the development of the filioque and addition to the Nicean Creed as I am sure many of you know. What does...
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Minggu, 2019-02-17 08:34:07Essence itself. There are those who trace this to the addition of the filioque, but I don't want to go there right now. (Nor can a Trinitarian say that...
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Senin, 2025-07-07 19:33:35were in dispute with the Catholics, such as supremacy of the Pope, and filioque. Some bishops and nobles, and the vast majority of the commoners refused...
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Selasa, 2024-12-17 19:53:12that when he came here, he did not kiss the ground, nor he mentioned filioque when publicly praying with the archibishop of Athens...! I agree with ASDamick...
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Minggu, 2023-01-29 21:05:23Paris and "of" Paris reminds me of the vicious theological debate over the filioque clause, consubstantiality and homoousis. The agglomeration commonly known...
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Sabtu, 2026-04-25 10:35:32Talk:Christianity/Archive 16#NPOV tag Consistency with Filioque clause 4 Talk:Christianity/Archive 16#Consistency with Filioque clause NPOV and intolerance 9 Talk:Christianity/Archive...
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Selasa, 2010-10-12 18:35:29Eastern branches of Christianity. (And this has nothing to do with the filioque clause or cultural issues like leavened/unleavened bread.) Augustine taught...
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Minggu, 2026-03-08 08:42:12with the core statement of faith - the Nicene creed - adding the word filioque to the phrase "the Holy Spirit, which proceedeth from the Father", to make...
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Sabtu, 2023-02-04 01:48:48Oriental Orthodox traditions. Here, the basic disagreement is over the "filioque", the West holding that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and...
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Kamis, 2026-07-30 10:08:37XVI/Archive 11#Featured status qui ex Patre Filioque procedit 2 Talk:Pope Benedict XVI/Archive 11#qui ex Patre Filioque procedit Images 3 Talk:Pope Benedict...
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Senin, 2023-05-01 21:14:20beliefs, and converts are required to say it as proof of their belief. (The filioque dispute is a secondary issue. Some recent denominations have forgotten...
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Rabu, 2024-03-06 11:11:43historically significant than a detailed discussion of Arianism or the Filioque clause or even art. (And now I have no doubt offended that author.) In...
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Rabu, 2026-05-27 01:48:17the issues between the two churches were cosmetic and more so political: filioque, disregard of ecumenical councils, papal supremacy, Latin vs. Greek language...
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Rabu, 2025-02-19 13:31:34Carolingian roots of their church, or even their statement of faith (the "filioque" which distinguishes Catholic from Orthodox faith has its origins in a...
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Senin, 2025-10-13 00:57:02to Rome to ask for military aid. In exchange, they agreed to adopt the filioque clause and submit themselves to the Pope. By the time those bishops returned...
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Selasa, 2010-10-12 16:57:53forget the historic importance details can play. A single word, such as Filioque, for example? Majoreditor (talk) 07:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC) Point is...
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Selasa, 2024-11-26 06:57:06Nicea IS the historical self-definition of Christianity, with only the filioque clause separating the East and the West, and since there is NO OTHER self...
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