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Awlaki

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First of all, lay of the personal attacks or you will be blocked. Secondly, there are several references describing Anwar Awlaki as a regional commander in the Arabian Gulf i.e. [1] Pass a Method talk 20:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-05T20:18:00.000Z","author":"PassaMethod","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PassaMethod-2011-10-05T20:18:00.000Z-Awlaki","replies":["c-125.92.222.222-2011-12-19T05:44:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2011-10-05T20:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pass a Method"}}-->

Not sure who the above is addressed to, but no such reference is given, and all such references I have seen elsewhere, including the NYT article you cite, are simple assertions by interested parties. President Obama ordered the killing of al-Awlaki - his assertion that Awlaki was a leader of Al-Qaeda is no more conclusive than any other killer's assertion of justification. If Obama had published evidence it would be a different matter. As it stands it seems likely that al-Awlaki was an inconvenience to the US government because of the influence of his preaching, and the notion that he was an active leader of Al-Qaeda was invented as an excuse for his assassination. If there is any concrete evidence available to show that al-Awlaki had a role in the leadership of Al-Qaeda, perhaps you should quote it rather than allege its existence and revert a valid edit without justifying your action.125.92.222.222 (talk) 05:44, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-19T05:44:00.000Z","author":"125.92.222.222","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-125.92.222.222-2011-12-19T05:44:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2011-10-05T20:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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It might be useful to point out that Al Quaeda refers to a specific guest-house in Pakistan where people who shared the self-appointed work (or Jihad) of liberation assembled on their way to engage the invaders in Afghanistan. The original Al Quaeda seems to have been a tiny store-front for the Mujahidin Service Bureau in a Bazaar in Peshawar. With the exception of Fawlty Towers it has come to be the most talked-about guest-house of our time. ^[1]

108.168.95.36 (talk) 18:28, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Jim Prendergast thewurd@gmail.com[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-27T18:28:00.000Z","author":"108.168.95.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-108.168.95.36-2012-12-27T18:28:00.000Z-Edit_request_on_27_December_2012","replies":["c-Canoe1967-2012-12-29T23:53:00.000Z-108.168.95.36-2012-12-27T18:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-29T23:53:00.000Z","author":"Canoe1967","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Canoe1967-2012-12-29T23:53:00.000Z-108.168.95.36-2012-12-27T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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unsubstantiated al-Qaeda connections

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The 2002 Bali bombings, the 2004 Madrid train bombings and the 7 July 2005 London bombings are listed in this template as part of the al-Qaeda timeline, although from these articles there doesn't appear to be any connection between these incidents and al-Qaeda. I propose to remove these from the template (and the template from these articles) unless more information substantiating the connection is provided in these articles.--67.250.35.250 (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-25T15:07:00.000Z","author":"67.250.35.250","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-67.250.35.250-2014-02-25T15:07:00.000Z-unsubstantiated_al-Qaeda_connections","replies":[]}}-->

Given the absence of evidence linking al-Qaeda to these attacks I will remove them from this template.--67.250.35.250 (talk) 00:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-03-13T00:12:00.000Z","author":"67.250.35.250","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-67.250.35.250-2014-03-13T00:12:00.000Z-unsubstantiated_al-Qaeda_connections","replies":["c-Gazkthul-2014-04-16T03:47:00.000Z-67.250.35.250-2014-03-13T00:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

For that matter, Iraq Ashura bombings, 23 November 2006 Sadr City bombings, 18 April 2007 Baghdad bombings, 2007 Yazidi communities bombings shouldn't really be here as they were all committed by the seperate group Al Qaeda in Iraq, a group that's later incarnation the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant has been explicitly disowned by Al Qaeda. Gazkthul (talk) 03:47, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-16T03:47:00.000Z","author":"Gazkthul","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gazkthul-2014-04-16T03:47:00.000Z-67.250.35.250-2014-03-13T00:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Al-Qaeda was involved in the Bali, Madrid and London bombings. Read these links.

http://www.rulit.net/books/the-black-banners-read-249656-95.html

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/06/1065292494121.html

http://www.rulit.net/books/the-black-banners-read-249656-127.html

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One FBI agent's memoirs does not determine historical facts on its own, especially in such high-profile incidents with thorough official investigations that do not support his claims. These bombings should be left out unless there is evidence to support the claimed link to al-Qaeda.--128.183.2.230 (talk) 20:53, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-25T20:53:00.000Z","author":"128.183.2.230","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-128.183.2.230-2014-04-25T20:53:00.000Z-unsubstantiated_al-Qaeda_connections","replies":[]}}-->

Hambali confessed to al-Qaeda's role in the Bali bombings. Al-Qaeda financed the operations. That's reliable proof.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/06/1065292494121.html

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