Template talk:Arthurian legend

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved Consensus currently appears to be against the move. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 05:09, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-04T05:09:00.000Z","author":"Alpha Quadrant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alpha_Quadrant-2013-01-04T05:09:00.000Z-Move?","replies":[],"displayName":"Alpha_Quadrant"}}-->

Template:Arthurian Legend → Template:King Arthur and the Matter of Britain –

Per title. 86.40.105.236 (talk) 00:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","author":"86.40.105.236","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z-Move?","replies":["c-76.65.130.165-2012-12-05T02:19:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T02:24:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-Apteva-2012-12-05T02:31:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T02:32:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-Apteva-2012-12-05T04:04:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-87.79.208.25-2012-12-05T19:30:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-CsDix-2012-12-05T21:06:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-BDD-2012-12-07T16:13:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-Cuchullain-2012-12-20T18:43:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","c-Bejnar-2012-12-29T19:39:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
Oppose I see no reason for renaming this. -- 76.65.130.165 (talk) 02:19, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T02:19:00.000Z","author":"76.65.130.165","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-76.65.130.165-2012-12-05T02:19:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
That's its title. It was a technical request. --86.40.105.236 (talk) 02:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T02:24:00.000Z","author":"86.40.105.236","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T02:24:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Clarification. Templates have both a name and a title. The title is what displays in the title bar. The name is whatever the template is named, and can be really anything. Apteva (talk) 02:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T02:31:00.000Z","author":"Apteva","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Apteva-2012-12-05T02:31:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Is there a reason for the capital L? --86.40.105.236 (talk) 02:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T02:32:00.000Z","author":"86.40.105.236","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T02:32:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
No, but is it worth changing? Apteva (talk) 04:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T04:04:00.000Z","author":"Apteva","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Apteva-2012-12-05T04:04:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I'd argue that the term "Arthurian Legend" is so thoroughly lexicalized that we should treat it as a proper name. "Arthurian legend" by contrast looks awkwardly generic. --87.79.208.25 (talk) 19:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T19:30:00.000Z","author":"87.79.208.25","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-87.79.208.25-2012-12-05T19:30:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Suggestion. Seems to me that Matter of Britain is this template's first and foremost subject, so how about renaming it "Template:Matter of Britain"? CsDix (talk) 21:06, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-05T21:06:00.000Z","author":"CsDix","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CsDix-2012-12-05T21:06:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T03:53:00.000Z-CsDix-2012-12-05T21:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Except that it isn't, it's focused on Arthurian Legend, not the whole Matter of Britain. A "Matter of Britain" template would be a mostly different template, since it's missing content from the non-Arthurian parts. -- 76.65.130.165 (talk) 03:53, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-06T03:53:00.000Z","author":"76.65.130.165","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T03:53:00.000Z-CsDix-2012-12-05T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-CsDix-2012-12-06T16:06:00.000Z-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T03:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
  In that case, I guess the proposal should be as originally requested. CsDix (talk) 16:06, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-06T16:06:00.000Z","author":"CsDix","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-CsDix-2012-12-06T16:06:00.000Z-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T03:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T19:42:00.000Z-CsDix-2012-12-06T16:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
  Though this portion of the Matter of Britain is frequently called the Arthurian Legend -- 76.65.130.165 (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-06T19:42:00.000Z","author":"76.65.130.165","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T19:42:00.000Z-CsDix-2012-12-06T16:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-CsDix-2012-12-10T04:09:00.000Z-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T19:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
  If so, then Template:Arthurian legend would seem the name to choose. CsDix (talk) 04:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-10T04:09:00.000Z","author":"CsDix","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-CsDix-2012-12-10T04:09:00.000Z-76.65.130.165-2012-12-06T19:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
I don't know if the phrase sounds more natural on the other side of the pond, but to me, "King Arthur and the Matter of Britain" sounds like a mildly interesting Harry Potter-esque Arthurian adventure. A move to Template:Arthurian legend would be prudent, at least. --BDD (talk) 16:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-07T16:13:00.000Z","author":"BDD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BDD-2012-12-07T16:13:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Oppose move to the unweildy "Harry Potter-esque" "King Arthur and the Matter of Britain"; support move to "Arthurian legend" if need be.Cúchullain ^t/c 18:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-20T18:43:00.000Z","author":"Cuchullain","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cuchullain-2012-12-20T18:43:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"C\u00fachullain"}}-->

Oppose proposed move, per reasoning of 76.65.130.165. While I do believe that "Arthurian Legend" is a proper name well established in the critical literature, I would not oppose the title "Arthurian legend". --Bejnar (talk) 19:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-29T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Bejnar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bejnar-2012-12-29T19:39:00.000Z-86.40.105.236-2012-12-05T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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