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The graphic for this sidebar - "A phrygian cap on a pole" - is really tacky and unnecessary.

Does anyone object to removing it, and simply leaving the sidebar as text? — Preceding unsigned comment added by El T (talk • contribs) 17:20, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-18T17:20:00.000Z","author":"El T","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-El_T-2017-05-18T17:20:00.000Z-Graphic_-_cap_on_stick","replies":["c-Michael_Goodyear-2018-12-08T15:13:00.000Z-El_T-2017-05-18T17:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see it is back again. The problem is that it is too large and makes the template take up a lot of space particularly when used in conjunction with other sidebar templates or infoboxes on a page. No good reason stated for switch from earlier image. If it is considered important to use this image, it should be reduced. --Michael Goodyear ✐ ✉ 15:13, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-08T15:13:00.000Z","author":"Michael Goodyear","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Michael_Goodyear-2018-12-08T15:13:00.000Z-El_T-2017-05-18T17:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Omnipaedista-2020-08-12T21:40:00.000Z-Michael_Goodyear-2018-12-08T15:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Most Wikipedia sidebars about ideologies no longer use specific symbols. See Template:Communism sidebar, Template:Communitarianism sidebar, Template:Conservatism sidebar, Template:Corporatism sidebar, Template:Liberalism sidebar, Template:Libertarianism sidebar, Template:Libertarianism in the United States sidebar, and Template:Socialism sidebar. The few sidebars that still feature specific symbols are Template:Anarchism sidebar, Template:Anarcho-capitalism sidebar, and Template:Libertarian socialism sidebar, but Anarchist symbolism is universally accepted and recognized (confer also: 1.Template:Fascism sidebar and Fascist symbolism; 2. Template:Nazism sidebar and Nazi symbolism). Republicanism has no such unique set of symbols. This explains the edit-warring over the image for the past 3 years. Why don't we just remove the image parameter? --Omnipaedista (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-12T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Omnipaedista","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Omnipaedista-2020-08-12T21:40:00.000Z-Michael_Goodyear-2018-12-08T15:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Can Michael J. Sandel's middle initial be added to mirror the article title? Thanks, 142.160.89.97 (talk) 23:37, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-16T23:37:00.000Z","author":"142.160.89.97","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-142.160.89.97-2018-06-16T23:37:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_16_June_2018","replies":["c-L293D-2018-06-17T00:00:00.000Z-142.160.89.97-2018-06-16T23:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not done: because all the other's names do not include middle initials, so to keep it consistent, I'll leave it like this. L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:00, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-17T00:00:00.000Z","author":"L293D","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-L293D-2018-06-17T00:00:00.000Z-142.160.89.97-2018-06-16T23:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z-L293D-2018-06-17T00:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

@L293D: It is currently inconsistent as the link to the article about Sandel is the only one that does not use the subject's common name and the article title. This is out of line with {{Communitarianism sidebar}} (in which Sandel is also included) and most other political ideology sidebars. It is also in violation of WP:BRINT. What rationale is there for this template's uniqueness amongst other templates of the same class and for disregarding WP:REDIRECT? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 00:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z","author":"142.160.89.97","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z-L293D-2018-06-17T00:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-L293D-2018-06-17T00:53:00.000Z-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z","c-L293D-2018-06-17T00:54:00.000Z-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

I declined because adding middle initials was out of line with the rest of the template. However, your arguments are right and I will make the edit. Thanks. L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-17T00:53:00.000Z","author":"L293D","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-L293D-2018-06-17T00:53:00.000Z-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

And thanks for the ping, otherwise I would never have seen this. L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:54, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-17T00:54:00.000Z","author":"L293D","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-L293D-2018-06-17T00:54:00.000Z-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T00:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T04:18:00.000Z-L293D-2018-06-17T00:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you, L293D. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 04:18, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-17T04:18:00.000Z","author":"142.160.89.97","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-142.160.89.97-2018-06-17T04:18:00.000Z-L293D-2018-06-17T00:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Add links to Republicanism in Norway and Republicanism in Japan 213.177.218.89 (talk) 18:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-06T18:59:00.000Z","author":"213.177.218.89","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-213.177.218.89-2020-10-06T18:59:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_6_October_2020","replies":["c-Omnipaedista-2020-10-07T23:16:00.000Z-213.177.218.89-2020-10-06T18:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Done. --Omnipaedista (talk) 23:16, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-07T23:16:00.000Z","author":"Omnipaedista","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Omnipaedista-2020-10-07T23:16:00.000Z-213.177.218.89-2020-10-06T18:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->