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From an Indian Express article: "See, my brother came back raving last week from a few days spent with one of our best-ever actors, Naseeruddin Shah. "Lovely guy!" he enthused and proceeded to tell me a fascinating tale of Shah's ancestry, heard from source. Apparently Naseer (who first electrified us as the stern Brahmin priest in the Kannada classic Tabbaliyu Neenade Magane, remade in Hindi as Godhuli). Turns out there was this pardada-plus forbear from Paghman in Afghanistan, who came as a mercenary to India. The family received the zamindari of Sardana for loyal service to the British. Sardana, not far from Meerut, is best-known for its beautiful Italianate church built by the colourful Begum Sumroo, who was partnered by the equally colourful mercenary, Walter Reinhardt `El Sombre' (desified to Sumroo). At which point I realised Naseeruddin Shah was a clansman of the writer Idries Shah, ..." JN46615:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How many people in the template are actually notable? We have a lot of unlinked entries and some redlinks. Navigation templates are intended to help the reader navigate, so if an article does not exist it is no use at all. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not a genealogy website. I will be pruning this template unless things begin to move soon. - Sitush (talk) 18:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. However, it might be a good idea to leave the following in generations 1 to 3? (although generations 2 and 3 are not notable as far as WP is concerned, they are pivotal as far as the lineage is concerned / important for continuity):
1st generation: Muhammed Shah (Jan-Fishan Khan)
2nd generation: Nawab Muhammad Ali Shah, Sardar Bhadur Mir Khan
3rd generation: Nawab Syed Amjad Ali Shah (last Nawab of Sardhana)
I really can't remember which of the other unlinked folk are worthy of inclusion.
Yes, thanks. I am having a lot of internet connection problems at the moment, per my last post on my talk page, and am also trying to patrol an article that is up for deletion. I will get round to this. Feel free to ping me in a week if nothing has happened - my new router will have turned up well before then. - Sitush (talk) 15:28, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Esowteric: I am a bit lost with your remark about keeping non-notables in the interests of continuity. We don't usually keep them and they will just attract the addition of more non-notables. - Sitush (talk) 13:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sitush: Okay, that's fine. It's just that we'll then be left with 1st generation jumping straight to 4th generation, with no indication of what came between the two, or on what basis notable 4th generation entries have been added. Totally up to you, thanks. Regards, Esowteric+Talk14:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I realise that. We either completely rewrite the template so that it doesn't mention generations or we put a "not applicable" type of note for the sections that would be empty. No idea which would be better. - Sitush (talk) 14:28, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
