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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003115800","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003115800-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Today I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011194400","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011194400-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241012180700","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241012180700-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016084900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016084900-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020171900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241020171900-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

My story today is about a composer and choir conductor, listen to his Lamento. - My story on 13 October was about a Bach cantata. As this place works, it's on the Main page now because of the date. I sort of like it because today is the birth date of my grandfather who loved and grew dahlias like those pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022143900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241022143900-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Did you listen? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241026081600","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241026081600-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031155500","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241031155500-October_music","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Barkeep49 (and also @ScottishFinnishRadish as I saw you also made a comment), I saw your comments on User:i.am.a.qwerty's talk page; in my experience, I have never gotten a response from them on their talk page, they usually just delete everything when people leave messages. This has happened even when myself and another editor have warned them for BLP vandalism, they just deleted it all. GraziePrego (talk) 03:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031033600","author":"GraziePrego","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GraziePrego-20241031033600-Qwerty_talk_page","replies":["c-Barkeep49-20241031090100-GraziePrego-20241031033600"]}}-->

Thanks for sharing that experience. I noticed here they did leave an explanation on the article talk page which I am considering as their response. Barkeep49 (talk) 09:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031090100","author":"Barkeep49","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Barkeep49-20241031090100-GraziePrego-20241031033600","replies":[]}}-->

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With all the page moves etc, but I created those pages by clicking links that were all in my face so I assume you know what is up and i'm not (completely) insane? Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 10:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106105300","author":"Just Step Sideways","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106105300-I'm_so_confused","replies":["c-Barkeep49-20241106153000-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106105300"]}}-->

@Just Step Sideways you're not insane (at least in this regards). Somehow the pages all got created as JSS (Alerts 0) which messed everything up. I have mostly fixed this; you have 1 or 2 more steps left to do. The step I definitely know you have to do is go to Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates/Just Step Sideways/Statement and uncomment the template that is on the page (and I think delete your statement that's on there). You may also have to transclude the page to the candidates page. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106153000","author":"Barkeep49","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Barkeep49-20241106153000-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106105300","replies":["c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106175000-Barkeep49-20241106153000"]}}-->

I don't remember this being the least bit difficult in the past. I'm lost. I'm not running for template editor. I think I got it? Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 17:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106175000","author":"Just Step Sideways","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106175000-Barkeep49-20241106153000","replies":["c-Barkeep49-20241106181900-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106175000"]}}-->

I have no idea what the behind the scenes setup is for all this. I think the lesson learned is to not accidently have some weird text present when you create the candidate pages :). You are showing as a candidate so I agree it seems to be all worked out. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106181900","author":"Barkeep49","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Barkeep49-20241106181900-Just_Step_Sideways-20241106175000","replies":[]}}-->

Regarding this comment: "more agile" is, of course, a relative term :-), as the arbitration committee wasn't all that quick in modifying the discretionary sanctions framework. But true enough, the community as a whole is too big to reach consensus agreement on major changes, and too ingrained with the idea of deriving procedures from the bottom up to worry about aligning discrepancies in its procedures. (Not worrying about trying to align everything has certain practical advantages which probably outweigh the negatives on the whole, but it leaves a lot of room for argument if everyone isn't willing to go along to get along.) I'm guessing there will have to be a bigger divergence between the contentious topics and discretionary sanctions frameworks before the community is willing to invest time to reach a consensus on the matter, and I imagine that once again they'll just say "like that, with these small differences". isaacl (talk) 18:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107180900","author":"Isaacl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Isaacl-20241107180900-More_agile","replies":["c-Barkeep49-20241107181500-Isaacl-20241107180900"]}}-->

It wasn't quick to modify DS as a whole. It has been quick to make more granular changes. And despite it being slow to modify DS as a whole it's done it a couple of times where as - as you note - the community never has. So even on that front it is "more agile" if not exactly "speedy". Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107181500","author":"Barkeep49","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Barkeep49-20241107181500-Isaacl-20241107180900","replies":["c-Isaacl-20241107183100-Barkeep49-20241107181500"]}}-->

Yes – the committee being a much smaller group is actually able to generate real-world consensus, and it can fall back to voting if necessary. So changes everyone agrees on can get done quickly, and larger scale changes stand a much better chance of being considered and eventually implemented. (The vocal segment of the community that gets involved in process discussions seems less interested in that practical example of moving forward, versus ensuring their dissent will be strongly heard.) isaacl (talk) 18:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107183100","author":"Isaacl","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Isaacl-20241107183100-Barkeep49-20241107181500","replies":[]}}-->

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For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107210900","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241107210900-November_music","replies":[]}}-->

Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111150000","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241111150000-November_music","replies":[]}}-->

Bakreep forever-more. (Thanks for the laugh in a busy-crappy day.) Ealdgyth (talk) 22:54, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107225400","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-20241107225400-And_they_shall_be_called...","replies":["c-Ealdgyth-20241107225400-Ealdgyth-20241107225400"]}}-->

(And that has inspired me to name my next MMORPG character Bakreep... ) Ealdgyth (talk) 22:54, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107225400","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-20241107225400-Ealdgyth-20241107225400","replies":["c-Barkeep49-20241107232700-Ealdgyth-20241107225400"]}}-->

I hope the character serves you well in your MMORPG and may I one day reach the levels that Bakreep has already reached . Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107232700","author":"Barkeep49","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Barkeep49-20241107232700-Ealdgyth-20241107225400","replies":[]}}-->

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