User talk:Boothy443/Archive 4
Votes for AdminshipBoothy443, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! In addition, thanks for your interest in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. However, in WP:RfA, we usually place a reason for voting oppose to a user. Otherwise, the vote may not be taken seriously by the Wiki-munity (is that a word?). Would you mind either placing a reason for your opposition for every RfA or withdrawing your votes? Thanks very much! Flcelloguy Give me a note! Desk 21:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I believe Dittoboy isn't really JoeM for the following reasons:
Civility in edit summariesPlease refrain from referring to your fellow editors as "morons" and other such forms of incivility in your edit summaries. Thank you. Kelly Martin 03:23, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
My mistakeSorry, I did not realise I had posted on your archive page, untill I re-read it this morning. Must have been half asleep last night. Giano | talk 07:15, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) Giano has drawn it to my attention that my contribution to your talk page may have seemed like bullying. Please be assured that my intent was to help you mitigate the general hostility that I thought I saw. I hope that I have not increased your discomfort and I regret my involvement. It is no accident that "well-meaning" has become a deprecation!—Theo (Talk) 07:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) B-101Uh, Boothy443, would it be okay if I copy your toolbox tables so I can create my own?- B-101 13:34, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC) I think there should be a box on the article saying what station is next and one before like the one you put on the Trenton Station article.
I realise you want us to leave you alone about this, but be aware that as you have not explained why you are voting against all admin candidates (no matter who they are), I would suggest to you that you don't act suprised when people a) message you about it, b) find that your vote is being discounted, and c) feel that perhaps you are disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. In your archives, I also notice that you wrote:
Sorry, but we do in fact need to know why you voted to oppose. Voting to oppose implies that you have a problem with that editor's behaviour, or some aspect of his/her actions on this website. If that is the case, then we need to know why this is. Supporting, on the other hand, implies by its very nature that the person voting has no issues with the editor and feel that they would make a fine candidate. This also means that they don't have to justify why they are voting to support! - Ta bu shi da yu 03:05, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I plan no change in my system of how i vote, let alone if i vote for an "admin". No will i cave into this "bully" tatic that is being imposed aginst persons that act differently to the "admins". I m starting to wonder if wikipedia is communisum is correct, and that this system is not run like a communist/socialist, adbet modified, state in the form of it's governance or shal i say non-governance. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:10, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) Hi Jason: Having looked at your edit history I think I understand why you voted oppose on all those candidates at once. I also think that you did so in response to what you consider to be failings by an individual admin and the administrators in general. Would you like me to elaborate my reasoning? This is not a rhetorical question. Making your point in that way has distracted a significant number of editors from other aspects of improving the encyclopedia so it seems reasonable for TBSDY and others to deduce that you were disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. They may be mistaken but I do not think that they are being unreasonable. Similarly, it seems to me that by voting against so many RFAs simultaneously without explanation, you create the impression that you are expressing opposition to the process or the role rather than to individual candidates. This is akin to writing "none of the above" on your ballot slip—a spoilt ballot that would be disregarded in the kind of election to which you also allude. In this case, however, the process is not intended as a democratic vote (although the addition of tallies and the simplification of the format makes it look so—and what looks so becomes so) but is intended to be a debate to form consensus. I risk making donkeys of us both (smile) by assuming that you understand consensus. So here is the difficulty: Some people (including you it seems) perceive the process to be a democratic vote whilst others see it as a debate that uses a polling mechanism. The former requires no explanation and most democracies regard secrecy as a key element; the latter requires explanations of oppositions to the proposal so that the proposal can be modified or explained to increase consensus. The argument becomes:
So, it is no longer a conversation about the same thing. I think that you do us all a disservice when you characterise this as a conflict between the admins and the rest of us. There is an existing process here. You chose to use it in an unusual way. A significant number of people asked for an explanation of this apparent anomaly with varying degrees of tact. Some of us have come to see that the initial volume of repeated questions could be seen as bullying even if that was not the intent. Nobody (and I repeat: nobody) has suggested that it is a bad thing to oppose RFAs. Reasoned opposition is to be encouraged because it helps other editors to look at the candidate more closely and enables the candidates to modify behaviours that are seen to be inappropriate. Support votes warm me but each comment and reasoned opposition would cause me to evaluate my behaviour and to seek to modify it. Many past candidates have stated how useful it was to receive criticism from their peers. In my opinion, an unexplained 'oppose' should attract questions; to do otherwise is to ignore that person's discomfort unless the candidature fails. How, specifically, would you like to see Wikipedia changed?—Theo (Talk) 11:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Adminship JoJanThanks for your support. JoJan 14:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) The FamilyI guess it's time to scoop the Litterbox and deposit some of the pertinent contents elsewhere. But the most appropriate place? Well, first I'll add your breaking news. The socks are probably all in a twist over Roger Moss. --Mothperson 13:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) What about a speedy delete for Roger Moss (sculptor)? This guy is such a nut! He's throwing in Boeing stubs again I see. Yeah, that builds credibility. I haven't checked on Coney's stubs lately. I might go have a look. --Mothperson 20:39, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
re:rfa votesBoothy regarding your RFA votes both positive and negative, I've read your archives and I know how you feel and I feel the same way some days however I think you've made your point and am hoping that you will rethink your choice of not leaving reasons for votes both positive and negative. Leaving explanations helps nominated users see what they have to improve on to become a ""better editor"" {for lack of a more appropriate term of the top of my head) and may help other users in their decision whether to vote for or against the adminship of a user. I can perfectly understand if you disagree with. Jtkiefer 23:02, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, well that whole nomination was wrought with controversy, you should be flattered though that you were mentioned by name on such a heavily trafficked page :) Jtkiefer 03:22, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
Howard SternI would but seeing I've been involved in the reversion, I don't think it is a good idea for me to protect the page. Evil Monkey∴Hello 04:18, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
AnswerI know you have some qualms, if i am not mistaken, about the adminstration here, and if i am not correct you are or were an admin, just wondering what those qualms are if any. Just curious, in reading some of your posts, if we might not be thinking on similar lines. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 02:36, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
VandalismThanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. -- Spotteddogsdotorg 07:25, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Nope--Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
RecreationYou should not ignore the procedure of a VFU that you started yourself. Please stop adding material to Wikipedia that was removed by consensus. This is a subtle form of vandalism, and may lead to your account being blocked. If you must save the content, do so in your userspace. The page has now been moved there, User:Boothy443/Vince DeMentri/temp. Finally, stop falsely accuse people of abuse. WP:CIV, WP:FAITH, WP:NPA. Radiant_>|< 09:03, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
Changed pageI assume that you didn't wish for your pages to be blanked and replaced with a leaving Wikipedia page? One of the users you've previously caught vandalising make this change to Talk, and this change to your user page. I assume that this was without your permission. Once your block is over, please feel free to correct me. - Estel (talk). 11:37, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC) BoothyI'll keep an eye out on the gang. --Mothperson 12:52, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) Boothy? Come talk to me when you have a moment. Puh-leeeeze. Seriously. --Mothperson 20:17, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) You haven't left for good,have you? We need you. Well, I do. I've lost it with the entity, and I've gone into battle. I may need some advice and scouting, if you can stand it. --Mothperson 20:37, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) Okay, I don't have any right to nag you, but you were one of the bright spots that emerged unexpectedly, and I do not want you to leave. Yes, the creeps have vaulted the walls and are eating up all the teacakes. But that's no reason to let them. There is still a lot of potential here. Please think about this for a few days. You are obviously extraordinarily smart, and refuse to suffer fools gladly. Been there, still am, and always will be. I'm not claiming to be extraordinarily smart, just smart enough to recognize fools, and mean enough not to put up with them past a certain point. I have to damp down my vicious tongue terribly here. I wish you would consider e-mailing me through here. I'll try you, and if it works, you can ignore me if you like. --Mothperson 21:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) Okay - doesn't work that way. But I think it does this way. Mothperson RfA thanksThanks for participating in my RfA. Cheers, -Willmcw 20:26, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC) UnconvincedI don't believe you're gone for good. I know you can't stay away. Besides, you've been a fixture since I've gotten involved... Don't let em all get to you and don't take things personal. Life is too short. ℬastique▼talk 02:20, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) Life's not so bad!I know you don't like people giving you advice and telling you what to do, but for what it's worth: I think you've has a tough time here recently, and certainly here [1] were the victim of undue massed pressure, which must have been very unpleasant indeed. I do think they were just all jumping over a rock like daft goats rather than mounting a co-ordinated campaign to harass you, and I do believe User:TheoClarke is basically well meaning. User:Radiant! (not, I know, at the moment your favourite person) is fair, and does do an awful lot of hard and valuable work about the site, and he did warn you, you would be banned. Trouble is, I know, when one's blood's up its not always easy to do the sensible, wise thing. You are right the admin. system here is not the best, there are too many of them, all back slapping and some being terribly important and thus deeply irritating, but someone has to do the boring maintenance stuff I suppose - if that's what they enjoy doing , let them! But let me give you some free advice "what can't be cured, must be endured" so unless you think someone really would be an outstanding admin. just stay away from the page - it's less stressful that way. I hope when you've had time to reflect you will feel able to return. Giano | talk 08:17, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) Re: problemsHello, Boothy. I got your messages. Sorry for the delay: I just moved to another state. I would be very happy to discuss with you the concerns that you have. Of course we may not agree on all matters, but I am certain that we can discuss matters rationally. I hope you are taking a Wikibreak (sometimes it does help to get away from Wikipedia for a bit) and have not left permanently. Please leave me a message on my talk page or e-mail me, all right? — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:28, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC) RFA VotesHi Boothy: I appreciate you taking the time to vote on my RFA. Thank you. Since it was an oppose vote, I was wondering if you have any problems with me personally, or with the WP:RFA system in general, as indicated my your general pattern of voting. If your concerns are indeed with my positions or actions, I'd appreciate knowing them, since maybe I could try to address and fix any issues. It's kind of an opportunity for me to grow as a Wikipedian. Thanks for your time. Regards, Bratschetalk 5 pillars June 29, 2005 19:38 (UTC) RfA ThanksWhile I was disappointed that you provided no explanation as to your reason for opposing my nomination, I wish to thank you for voting. If there is anything I can do to change your mind on my qualifications for adminship, please let me know. --Allen3 talk July 1, 2005 14:32 (UTC)
Requests for adminship votesHi, I've decided to ask here anyway, since one of the goals of the project is to have talk pages where issues can be discussed. Can you explain why you have voted oppose for every current admin nomination except one? I have read your talk page archives, and I have never seen a response that actually addressed any of the issues involved. Given that the goal of RFAdminship is building and determining community consensus, I would like specific reasons for each. If you would like to know why other users have voted either support or oppose with no explanation ask them as you wish. - Taxman Talk 22:24, July 13, 2005 (UTC) What's wrong?Is there a problem with how you're feeling right now? You've left several oppose votes on WP:RFA without any reasons. Denelson83 23:21, 13 July 2005 (UTC) AdminishipI've noticed u seem to be in a longstanding standoff with the wikiadministrators. would u consider a nomination? I checked Kate's tool and u have over 8,000 edits which well exceeds most administrators. As they say "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Best regards, freestylefrappe 22:38, July 20, 2005 (UTC) County seal imagesI've noticed that you've managed to find county seal images for the counties of Maryland. I'm curious if your source might also have these images for other states? Thanks! Sarge Baldy 00:54, July 21, 2005 (UTC) UMBC location disputedI have taken steps to indicate that the current UMBC article has a dispute over the location. Please provide evidence to support your claim that UMBC is located in Catonsville on the talk page. - Gauge 02:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC) Sheep voteJust to let you know that I deleted that sheep vote and told the person who created it that I was incredibly disappointed that he/she created it in the first place. Talrias (t | e | c) 13:25, 21 July 2005 (UTC) Please be niceI do not feel that your edit summary, "rv/v by a lemming user, User:Ardonik, if you gonna say it to me then say it to all the admins that seem to be above policy, as long as i am be defamed then this is what you gonna get" was appropriate. User:Ardonik's edit certainly was not vandalism; it was a polite comment left on your talk page. This is what talk pages are for: it is not vandalism to leave people comments on their talk pages. Boothy, are you sure you don't want to discuss the difficulties you've been having on Wikipedia? It seems lately all you are interested in is quarrelling with other users. You indicated to me once before that you were willing to discuss your concerns, but you never responded to my reply. I am still available, if you are still interested. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:52, 22 July 2005 (UTC) your votes on RfAsHi, I'm just doing the rounds after my successful adminship promotion. But for you I've got something more involved than a cut-n-paste thank-you note. I have not seen an admin nomination yet that you did not oppose, and very few that you did not vote on at all. I am unclear as to what your motive is by doing this, but it certainly does not make your votes seem to be very important if you do not even express a reason for why no-one meets your expectations. If you are going to oppose all you see, please have the decency to at least explain your evidently strict criteria to them. Thank you for your time. :) GarrettTalk 11:03, 22 July 2005 (UTC) Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Boothy443. Hedley 16:10, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Fern.jpgYou're right, i completely spaced out when i uploaded that image. It needs to be deleted or moved, what should I do? Thoth Please accept thisWikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Boothy443. One day maybe you can be even higher than an admin. I see them abuse their power constantly. My description also gives some more reasons. DyslexicEditor 22:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC) Good workBoothy - People tend to emphasize the conflicts, and overlook the vast amount of good that a particular user does. I'd just like to let you know that your good work does not go unappreciated. →Raul654 02:01, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Please, don't take this too personal...A word to let you know that WNJS and WNJT should be together as they are both one in the same (New Jersey Network), so PLEASE leave it alone, okay? Thanks. NoseNuggets August 9 2005 7:55 AM US EDT kmccoy's RFAHi! I was a little disappointed that you didn't comment on my RFA. Were you on vacation? kmccoy (talk) 00:16, 10 August 2005 (UTC) CFDPlease stop changing the consensus made by WP:CFD. This is not a "secret decision". Any further removal, may be treated as vandalism. Please read: Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 August 3#Category:Delaware River crossings K1Bond007 20:15, August 10, 2005 (UTC)
You realise you actually voted for BaronLarf's rfa? Was that a typo? Slac speak up! 21:40, 10 August 2005 (UTC) Func's RfA :)Boothy443, I want to thank you for supporting my recent adminship vote, it was very much appreciated! :) We appear to be from the same neck of the woods, Philly. :) I've lived in the Manayunk/Roxborough section most of my life, and I keep meaning to make contributions to those articles, but somehow I haven't really done much yet. I've noticed you making a lot of great edits in Philadelphia-related articles. Please let me know if I can assist you in this area :) Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make. Func( t, c, e, ) 18:54, 11 August 2005 (UTC) Why do you keep deleting pictures I took with my camera? They are not violations. See Yuengling talk This will be the only note I leave here. Good day Scott rfa voteHi - I was actually kind of curious if I'd be an exception to your nearly universal NO vote. Would you find it amusing if I added "clearly a sheep vote" following your vote? I'm not entirely sure how you feel about what goes on around here, but I'm guessing (hoping, actually) that you are at least occasionally amused by some of the more flagrant absurdities. In any event, thanks for voting and I appreciate the support. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:39, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
British TV templateYour templates seem a little cleaner and more professional than the existing one. Before you make any changes, I'd mention it at Wikipedia:WikiProject British TV channels. It might seem academic as there are only two members of the project (one of them being me!), but the other user created the project to get the existing template on every channel article. I think he's done a lot of mop and bucket work with it, so might be a bit resistant at having to start again (although you do seem to have done much of the work already)! In light of present circumstances, then, I'd at least mention it there before making mass changes to the articles. I'd support you. The JPS 21:03, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Fernando Rizo's RfABoothy, the convential wisdom that you vote 'oppose' on each and every RfA has been sunk recently by your 'support' votes for some candidates. I have no idea what your criteria for support is, but I'm sorry that I didn't meet them. Feel free to leave me some critiques and let me know how you think I'm doing as an admin if the opportunity ever presents itself. Fernando Rizo T/C 19:31, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Ronald20I see that you've also ran into Dittoboy—he's the first and only time that I've had any of my user pages vandalized. As for Ronald20, there is some more info and some speculation at User:BlankVerse/RonaldWatch if you are interested. As for my User page: There are several things that need to be done to help improve the health of the Wikipedia and the suggestion on that page is just one of them. Another thing that should be implemented is my Merge WikiProject idea. On the other hand, I have neither the time nor stamina to fight the good fight. I'll put my ideas out there and if anyone else wants to run with them I will enthusiastically support them from the sidelines, but I will not be a major participant. As it is, I see myself cutting way back on any participation in the bureaucracy and backstage machinations of the Wikipedia. I even see a drop in the amount of article writing that I will do. Also, if you are interested, I've also written up some more of my musings at BlankVerse's ever-lengthening Wikipedia rants. As for your copyright concern: If you don't want to discuss things on Talk pages, my email is enabled so you can contact me that way. BlankVerse ∅ 06:10, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
SEPTAHelvetica, yes it seems to be a favorite of transit agencies in the 1970s, and SEPTA hasn't really changed much since then. --Luciuskwok 07:13, 21 August 2005 (UTC) Philadelphia Wikimedia ProjectI would be interested in this. I live in North Philly and am acquainted with the area, but we'll need to find others to do in depth work on the rest of the city. "Rivals"I see the "Rivalries Fairy" has struck again. Presumably all 30 teams are infected. Ann Nonymous doesn't seem to take hints very well. >:( Wahkeenah 11:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC) PhilliesI was thoroughly amused by the "black eye" story. Just think of it: An autograph session gone bad, the worst tragedy in the entire 122 year history of the Phillies. Worse than the fatal bleacher collapse in 1903. Worse than the team collapse in 1964. Worse than being the worst team, year in and year out, in the history of major league baseball. Any bets on whether the writer was the recipient of those obscenities? Would that qualify as "original research"? >:) Wahkeenah 02:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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