I was in the process of re-writing this page at the same time as you were editing it. If you would prefer, I will take a break so that we don't have edit conflicts due to making changes simultaneously. My first intention was to remove that anecdote as well! Let me know what you prefer, here or on the article talk page. I am posting this here first, to apologize if I disrupted your work on the article. FeralOink (talk) 16:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I took some time to try to define Virtual Space for you, but I simply do not have the time to come up to speed on wikipedia editing. If you would like to assist and get this content added, then please do. Otherwise, the info will be just for you. Virtual Space is a feature that has existed as far back as Brief in the late 1980s. This is supported in Visual Studio (not Code), geany, sublime, notepad++, etc., etc., I use this feature extensively when making rectangular selections and moving text. Here's text I attempted to add. At this point, I'm done.
Regards,
Tribernia
Cambridge is equally in the United Kingdom. As a UK-wide organisation, it is entirely appropriate for a church belonging to the United Reformed Church be described as being in the United Kingdom, and you haven't provided any compelling reason for a change here. Please follow BRD guidelines and do not edit war by repeating your edit without discussion. Thanks. Escape Orbit(Talk)15:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reverting My Edit On Bath School of Art and Design
Hi there,
You reverted my edit on Bath School of Art and Design, saying it was not constructive. All I did was say it was part of Bath Spa University, which makes it more informative and accurate (at least in my view). You also seemed to have used a "counter-vandalism" tool to revert it, which is kind of bizarre seeing that it wasn't meant to be vandalism. I get that you're new to Wikipedia given the banner up top, but can you explain this? Thanks in advance. Losipov (talk) 22:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I saw you edited the Blue Origin page. I've been editing it too because of the big NASA announcement on Friday and I really like Spaceflight pages because they are the coolest thing ever!!
I saw you removed Blue Origin as a Defense company. There are a few articles that talk about military's things and such so I assume they are a defense company. What are your thoughts on this?
Terry is very much alive, and many of the dates and information you have listed for her are wrong. I'm in the process of fixing her page. You reverted my changes. Please put my changes back 206.194.209.103 (talk) 18:56, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I know her personally, and she knows her birthdate. However, I couldn't find anything to cite. I don't remember if she mentions the year she was born in her memoir, but if she does, could we use that as the citation? 206.194.209.103 (talk) 19:36, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Frustrating when you have first-hand knowledge, but cannot use it in an article. The policy on reliable sources talks about a source being verifiable by interested readers. So, if the memoir states her date of birth and the memoir has been published, then it should be a valid source for such a basic detail — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me09:26, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, that vandal on that page is WP:LTA/LB2 (Lithuaniaball2) - they usually have Captcha usernames that end in the number 2 and vandalize car related articles. More info can be found on the LTA page I linked to in this comment. In the future it might be a good idea to report them to SPI; I filed a report there FYI. -- Prodraxistalkcontribs14:49, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Curious about this edit. While the article title makes it pretty easy for someone familiar with the context to figure out the subject, it's not the same as the example in the guide (event plus date). For {{annotated link}}, the shortdesc would still be useful. Care to elaborate on your reasoning here? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:34, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A Short description is not a definition and needs to be short. An annotated link is only a default description for a See also link. Most of the time, the See also description should be hand-written to reflect the reason that it is linked from that article. Different articles may have different reasons to link and so might need a different description — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me20:44, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I've been constantly bothered by the notion that when articles have short descriptions at all they are basically banal and useless. This unfortunately seems to confirm that... this is their purpose? Unsure what the point even is then. But cheers for the explanation, which should save me some time in future. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, wondering if you could add context to this edit. I'm confused how this conforms to SDNONE or how to helps the encyclopedic value of Wikipedia. I'm also confused why the verbiage "List article of" couldn't have been removed from the short description rather than blanking it altogether. - Skipple☎15:16, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strewth! That is a while back. I have changed it to Mountains in New England over 4000 feet. The best solution may be to rename the article to List of mountains in New England over 4000 feet — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me15:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understood, but disagree with the title change. The article, at least to my eyes, is more in-depth than a list article. - Skipple☎16:40, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would you like to explain why you think the short description you have chosen is a good match for the content of the article? Otherwise this is just a bit of a pointless edit war.
The failings with describing it as a rowing boat are:
(1) that the people who used it called it a "pulling boat" and would probably fall about laughing if you insisted it was a rowing boat. The terminology is explained in Rowing.
(2) The naval version and most of the civilian versions were also equipped with sails.
(3) Speed was the major characteristic of the gig.
Hi! Apologies for accidentally overriding a few of your short descriptions written to replace the very long ones - seems the short description gadget doesn't check for edit conflicts and we happened to be fixing the list at the same time :P Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 18:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for all the good work on improving short descriptions. You've already fixed most of those on my naughty list but I would welcome a second opinion on the final two. The titles really say everything that belongs in an SD; do we just leave the dates alone? Certes (talk) 09:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You edited the page for Valarmathi N, isro scientist, winner of Abdul kalam award, project director risat, based out of Bangalore, aged 64 as having died. The cite was the death of valarmathi k, aged 50s, range program office , voice of isro countdowns
Please see WP:SDNONE – "... some article titles are sufficiently detailed that an additional short description would not be helpful ... In those cases, {{Short description|none}} should be used." In each case, the SD was "Ward of New Orleans" which is redundant, since the article title is "... Ward of New Orleans". The articles are not marked as vandalism. In two cases there are duplicate articles, which I tagged as needing to be merged — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me07:26, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:SDDUPLICATE — "... avoid duplicating information that is already in the title" — list of characters from the Star Wars saga is just a paraphrasing of the article title List of Star Wars characters
also WP:SDNONE — "... some article titles are sufficiently detailed that an additional short description would not be helpful ... In those cases, {{Short description|none}} should be used."
and — "... in some Wikipedia list articles; that default should not normally need to be edited."
The "Not constructive" is an automatic tag added by the RedWarn editing gadget
@Ldm1954:WP:SDESC states that short descriptions should "be short – no longer than is needed to fulfill its functions effectively". Usually, short descriptions are less than 40 characters long; the current one is 104 characters long, far longer than what would be convenient and useful to read. In my opinion, GhostInTheMachine's short description doesn't seem to be technically wrong, although you could suggest a better version. Liu1126 (talk) 17:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed it to "Scanning electron microscopy using thin samples and transmitted electrons". This differentiates it from SEM & TEM while still being shortish (73 with spaces). It must be differentiated from those. If you want to suggest others I will tell you if they are wrong. Ldm1954 (talk) 17:15, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I think that's good enough. The software truncates off the "electrons" bit in the search box, but there's enough info visible already. Liu1126 (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is a problem with the Kocasu Creek (Hınıs) page template. I don't know why. Can you help me? If I delete excess spaces in the Geography section, the font is distorted and the Gegraphy title appears vertically. I copied the Murat River template to this pageVartolu3566 (talk) 11:03, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Thank you for participating at the RfD linked above. I didn't want to get too carried away at that RfD about the "2009" ordeal because it was clear that it was a technical mix-up, and that everything would work out no-harm no-foul. I am curious though, as to what the "sore point considering yesterday's announcement" was, so I figured I'd ask you here as a veeeery side note. 😅 Utopes(talk / cont)08:40, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Evil One who is the current UK Prime Minister made the utterly disastrous mistake of killing the north end of HS2.[1] Of course, others may have a different analysis of the event, but they are just misguided and probably Southerners — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me09:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I see you changed a short description: I changed it to "β-lactam antibiotic", and you changed it back to "beta-lactam antibiotic". Is this just personal preference or am I missing something about special characters in short descriptions? Kimen8 (talk) 11:26, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, wasn't aware I was undoing your change. The beta symbol was seen as a lower case letter and as such the articles get listed in one of the error tracking categories, so I just "fixed" them. Also, the greek letter is not fully available on all devices (it should be of course) — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me13:44, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that does make sense that the script would catch the lowercase β and tag that as a potential thing to fix about the short description. It not being available on all devices seems like not a thing to worry about, because if that were the case, the rest of the article body would be an issue as well. That being said, to prevent the article(s) appearing in categories that need looked at, I'll try to be careful about using "lowercase" letters as the first character of a short description.
Will you set to "none" as short description. See what I attempted edit this and this, because in some article titles are sufficiently detailed that an additional short description would not be helpful.49.150.4.134 (talk) 14:30, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, the previous coordinate match was completely out of whack. Since China bans Google Map and Google Earth services, most of the geographical information you see there is biased. You can check the information on OpenStreetMap and the new coordinates I chose are accurate.
Thank you for your faith! Ansony89 (talk) 03:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like these offsets are random. Mostly because Google didn't correct this because they have already withdrawn from the Chinese market. Streets and satellite images on Google Maps or Google Earth basically cannot overlap.
OSM is a free, open geographic database updated and maintained by a community of volunteers via open collaboration. Contributors collect data from surveys, trace from aerial imagery and also import from other freely licensed geodata sources. So some users in China may have updated their map information here.
Take the city where I live (not a very huge city) as an example. I can only find two metro lines on Google Maps. This is data from almost ten years ago. On OSM, you can even see the metro lines that were just opened this year.
Thanks. I have been working on random rivers, so I will stay with OSM for the location of river sources etc. Apart from the age of the Google maps, about how big is the largest displacement for basic geographical features? — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me17:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your reversion of my edit to "Natalee Holloway (film)"
Greetings and felicitations. I noticed that you reverted my edit to Natalee Holloway (film) with the note that it was vandalism. Vandalism was not my intention—I mistakenly used a second "Short description" template in the infobox instead of a {{Plain list}} template. I see that have added your own short description to the article. Would you please be so kind as to allow me to re-implement the remainder of my edit? (Also, I note that you might want to remove the "new user" notice from the top of this page, as you now have more than seventeen years as a contributor and fifty thousand edits to your credit.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Intended or a typo, the effect was mayhem and carnage (well, some damage and an entry in an error category) so I simply undid the change. No problem with you having another go. I added the notice at the top of my talk page not that long ago – mainly a reminder to myself (and the very few other people who may see it) that there is always more to learn and to always keep that in mind — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me10:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your second attempt at a short description for Garshunography is a little better than your first but it is still wrong. What you have described is transliteration. The origin of the concept is with a Coptic practice: they had a (living) coptic script but chose on occasion to write a Coptic language text using Arabic script. The fundamental point is that choice, not the mechanics (which is what your version describes).
A fundamental design error was made when the short description concept was first specified, to limit it to the technical capability of iPhones at the time. That is why we have the silly 40 character limit. Most of the time, a decipherable telegraphese text can be made within 40 characters that has some connection with reality, but sometimes the effect is so misleading that quite frankly it is better to have no SD at all. This is such a case.
When SDs were only used for searching by the app, your version is good enough to tell familiar readers that yes this is the topic they wanted. But many See alsos now use {{Annotated link}} to give readers a clue as to what makes an unfamiliar topic worth exploring. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:07, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello GhostInTheMachine -- Just a quick reminder that A7 is only for articles on a "real person, individual animal, commercial or non-commercial organization, web content, or organized event", not for products. (I've deleted it G11.) Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 09:57, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@GhostInTheMachine, Good morning and have a pleasant day. Please You can move the page name from Maitraka to Maitrak. The main problem is that sources generally mentioned them as Maitrak and only few of them mentioned as Maitraka, therefore if you can move the page, I'd be grateful, as I attempted but was unable to do so. 2404:3100:1880:7FA6:1:0:4045:1EA6 (talk) 23:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, changed Indianapolis as well. A Short description should be short – see WP:SD40. Central business district of Louisville, Kentucky, U.S. (55 characters) is too long, but District of Louisville in Kentucky, US (38 characters) is fine and still "correct" — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me08:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We also should not shortchange readers. I am not suggesting a full definition be placed in the short description, but 'district' is a far cry from "central business district", and nobody is harmed from the few extra characters. Readers should know at a glance what the article is about, and 'district' doesn't go far enough. I'll be happy to accept the results of an RfC on this matter if we need to go that route. Stefen Towers among the rest!Gab • Gruntwerk09:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We are not hiding information – interested readers can read the article itself. "District" really is sufficient for the purpose of a Short Description. However, life is too short for an RFC, especially since we both know we are correct :-( — GhostInTheMachinetalk to me09:59, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to Talk:two sets of books
