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Dancing \o/ \o/ \o/ I found her. "Lillie Edwards" married David Shephard Holman. "In 1907 was living as E. E. Holman, architect at 1020 Chestnut"! As I suspected she is Louise's mother :) I LOVE puzzles! SusunW (talk) 00:07, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
And I am still wondering. Did my e-mail ever show up? And if it didn't, why didn't it? Is Wikipedia monitoring our e-mails? Censoring them? Or is it a Mexico problem? I never did get a copy of the e-mail, which is why I am still wondering. *sigh* SusunW (talk) 05:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I replicated it. I went to your page. I pressed on e-mail. I typed "test" in the body and put a checkmark in the box send me a copy. I pressed send. I came to your talk page and posted this
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SusunW, I am befuddled. I know my email is verified with Wiki because I have Project Muse access and that had to be turned on as a pre-requisite... I'll email the volunteer back with the results of our experiment. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't feel comfortable just nominating one of your articles for deletion, but please consider whether this should be a redirect to FOOD. the significant information is essentially about her in context of the restaurant, and much of the rest of the article is over=personal. DGG ( talk ) 22:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for butting in on your page, Sue. But What DGG? Why would one even suggest paring down the life of a person to the three year life of a restaurant? Is David more important than Michaelangelo? Doesn't the notability of one rely on the other? If the creation is noteworthy, how can you insinuate that the creator is not? If you must delete something, choose something non-notable. Better yet, please go look at some of the other thousands of articles which need improvement and actually improve them. This deletion culture must stop. SusunW (talk) 14:11, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
this being an encyclopedia, we usually do pare down articles on people to the part that is appropriate for an encyclopedia. The policy here is NOT MEMORIAL: we do not write detailed bios of people unless the public interest in them would warrant it. The intrinsic merit of each individual has nothing to do with it. See WP:EINSTEIN; Michelangelo is famous, and many of his works are famous, and in fact he is one of the few people considered so famous that each individual one of his major works is appropriate for an article. If the only work he ever produced was David, that might well be the article (as is the case for a number of medieval artists, who are know primarily from one surviving work). Goodden is very possibly notable; she is certainly not famous in the same sense M. is. For someone who has one major accomplishment, it makes sense to consider them in context of it. If it turns out that there are other equally important accomplishments, that would be another matter. Fro the article at the time I saw it this restaurant was the only encyclopedia-worthy accomplishment, and better known than she is. We focus our articles to what people are more likely to have heard about. What caused me to spot this article was the duplication, which is inevitable if someone is known primarily for some one particular thing. The test is whether a viable article could be written where the only mention of the restaurant was a single sentence with a link.
(I am not now considering whether the material given here justifies a separate article--some of it is in areas I rarely work in) DGG ( talk ) 01:10, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
No problem SusunW, I wasn't sure that my Carol Goodden article was a very well-written article--it was one of my first. What's your take? Yesterday I was exhausted. Also, I felt like rather than losing everything to deletion, maybe I'd add her bio to FOOD via merge... Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:24, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
You know my philosophy. We can never learn all that there is to know and there is always room for improvement. I think she was more than just the three years that she spent at FOOD and deserves her own article. There are plenty of articles about her and she had other accomplishments besides FOOD. The other founders rate their own articles, why would she not? SusunW (talk) 14:38, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
She's apparently still exhibiting [1] and again, I think you can make a case that she is as important as the other primaries. Cambridge Journal piece calls her a significant artist of the period [2]. This piece says she was who financed [3] Gordon Matta-Clark and they split when she "lost her fortune". Will look more this afternoon. SusunW (talk) 15:17, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
More clues ... her name was Caroline ... Caroline Yorke Goodden. [4] now it's Ames ...Caroline Goodden Ames [5]. Same book that says she is now Ames, said she toured with Trisha Brown's Dance Company in the US and Europe. This shows she did] from 1970 to 1974 and gives the names of the shows. This says she was one of the founding members of Trish Brown's troupe so a bit more than an occasional performer. [6]. Was still in NY in 1977, as performed at MOMA [7]. This NY times piece clearly makes it evident that FOOD was only a small portion of what she did. [8]SusunW (talk) 22:15, 8 October 2015 (UTC) (Note: I get different hits if I put in Carol and Caroline, also put in -food and it will weed out some, but not all of the restaurant's links). If you need or want more, just holler. SusunW (talk) 22:15, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
SusunW, thank you so much for digging these up. I've reworked the article quite a lot. If you have a chance, take a look. You've done so much for me. Thank you!!!! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:54, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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Much stronger article now. The only plus to this culture of deletion is that we have to stay on top of the files much more. But, the threats at deletion make us work to make better articles. It is a much more balanced piece showing her various endeavors now. :) Yes, DGG encylopedia. Offers information on people others might need or want to know about. Not about "famous" people, not about "personalities" about people who can be documented to have had an impact and to be notable for some accomplishments. SusunW (talk) 01:14, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
1. There are two links on the page which refer to articles in Time-Out Chicago and the Thrill list. I will be adding an article from the Northwestern University Newspaper as well.
2. The Chicago Fun Club has over 600 members on their Meetup.com site as well as over 500 separate individuals/couples who are on their email list. Not sure how to quantify this.
3. There are very few non-landed social nudist clubs in the Midwest, so there isn't a lot of competition. The 2nd largest that I was able to find is in Indiana with about 80 members.
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A list of redlinks created here, one moved there, a name added over there, a link added, an AfD challenged. All valuable to our continued growth. I cannot tell you how much the lists have contributed to the success of the editathons, I only know that our output at them has grown exponentially since you started making lists. Your work is appreciated and I sincerely thank you. SusunW (talk) 03:57, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
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