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neutral point of view. Shortcuts WP:PLOTREFWP:PLOTREF MOS:PLOTSOURCEMOS:PLOTSOURCE The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need...

section of a work of fiction usually does not require citation, per MOS:PLOTSOURCE: the film itself is assumed to be the source. I personally try to provide...

06:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC) You're welcome. I'm a big believer in WP:PLOTSOURCE, having just promoted a book FA with a lengthy "unsourced" plot section...

uncited real-world statements (plot does not need inline citations per MOS:PLOTSOURCE) Ensuring all articles meet notability standards. If they do not, discuss...

are not required to use secondary sources for plot summaries per MOS:PLOTSOURCE; the reasoning goes that it is generally assumed that the work itself...

as paragraphs in plot sections that do not require references (see MOS:PLOTSOURCE) and paragraphs that are artificially split into two parts because they...

which is verifiable. Name drop and redirect, no need for a source per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:30, 24 September 2018 (UTC)...

at the improving the Hollyoaks characters. Also, per WP:SOAPS and MOS:PLOTSOURCE, storylines sections don't need to be sourced. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk)...

as paragraphs in plot sections that do not require references (see MOS:PLOTSOURCE) and paragraphs that are artificially split into two parts because they...

have a feeling it is because readers believe that it is similar to WP:PLOTSOURCE as hence does not need a source, although that is not the case. DaniloDaysOfOurLives...

lack of sourcing in the list article, I think the same rational as MOS:PLOTSOURCE can be used for verifiability (in that the game itself verifies the content)...

explanation: While a certain amount of MOS:PLOTSOURCE WP:OR is allowed, this article is nothing else than MOS:PLOTSOURCE WP:OR. After 17 years, this article...

episode reviews cited substantially treat the Leah character. Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, a plot synopsis does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as...

10:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC) I would echo Guerillero above, and note that MOS:PLOTSOURCE (which allows for the plot summaries of fictional books to be uncited...

solution: sourced plot summaries. While editors are encouraged by MOS:PLOTSOURCE to rely on secondary sources, the guideline does not require that they...

but unlikely. Indagate (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC) Comment Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. the plot/storyline sections do not need to be sourced, and it isn't uncommon...

note; to my understanding synopses do not need to be sourced per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 20:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC) There are still some grammar...

(UTC) Just a note - per the storylines guidelines at WP:SOAPS and per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, the storyline sections do not need sourcing, as watching the show acts...

perfectly valid. Dream Focus 10:57, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Keep As per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, it is acceptable to have no sourcing as it is assumed the work itself...

{{citation needed}} templates are routinely removed from plot summaries per WP:PLOTSOURCE, even though the content in question would technically now qualify as...

in sources so coming from the book itself: that can be fine, per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. A GA reviewer might argue with it. A DYK reviewer would likely insist...

WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT -- Ficaia (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC) @Ficaia However, MOS:PLOTSOURCE is about works of fiction, which afaict this is not. WP:PRIMARY#5 may...

suggest we soften the "summarizes" somewhat, something like "though a MOS:PLOTSOURCE approach can work well regarding some scriptural stories." Gråbergs Gråa...

WP:NOTBROKEN and the series synopsis doesn't need a citation per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. The definition of "several" is more than two but not many, which seems...

might be fine if this were an article on a fictional TV series (per MOS:PLOTSOURCE), but, since we're dicussing living people here, it might be best to err...

technically breaks WP:PLOTSOURCE, in that it gives a synopsis of a non-fiction book without actually including citations -- in theory, PLOTSOURCE applies only...

other media sections solely rely on using the comics and the film as WP:PLOTSOURCE. This leaves only the Publication history section, but the majority of...

but since the material would be fine even without citations per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, I'm not sure there's really an FAC criteria issue (although I'm not averse...

I believe that this would semi-fall under the same guidelines as MOS:PLOTSOURCE (in that the information is sourced to the work itself). I can probably...

2024 (UTC) @CRplayz7: I'm not going to evaluate the articles but MOS:PLOTSOURCE says: "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not...

WP:GNG. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC) Comment Per WP:PLOTSOURCE no sources are required for plot and character summaries because it is...

@OlifanofmrTennant: Done on everything except the plot summaries. MOS:PLOTSOURCE says "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not...

not debatable in my book: Everyone aspires for their own version of MOS:PLOTSOURCE ;-)—Bagumba (talk) 17:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC) Indeed, lol :-) That's...

possible; neiher has an inline citation, but that's not required: MOS:PLOTSOURCE. Creepers series is a stub, but the Brain Suckers mentioned there is the...

written down anywhere? Herostratus (talk) 08:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC) MOS:PLOTSOURCE. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:46, 31 July 2020 (UTC) Ohhh OK thanks. Herostratus...

might be fine if this were an article on a fictional TV series (per MOS:PLOTSOURCE), but, since we're dicussing living people here, it might be best to err...

something like the plot of a show then, that's completely fine per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. You would get more helpful responses, if you could specify the context...

of plot summaries is considered to be the fictional work itself (MOS:PLOTSOURCE). To my mind, character descriptions fall under this convention. By all...

specific rules about places where adding a reference is not required (MOS:PLOTSOURCE, for instance). The overriding policy is "no original research". Medical...

8.77 (talk) 18:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC) This aspect (applies to MOS:PLOTSOURCE as well) was a challenge we encountered at the universal editnotice discussion...

BLPs/challenged material, and there are arguably exceptions like MOS:PLOTSOURCE and WP:BLUESKY) but still pretty directly communicates what we want newcomers...

(talk) 09:34, 22 February 2020 (UTC) Hello Mistipolis! Yes there is, MOS:PLOTSOURCE. It goes for tv-series, films, novels etc. Basically you are meant to...

regarding that line about the light novel, I would say it falls under MOS:PLOTSOURCE since its just a summary and not referring to any specific lines. Link20XX...

(talk) 07:05, 23 November 2022 (UTC) @Ps103ankit In general, no, see WP:PLOTSOURCE. But in the case you mention, you probably should, since you didn't see...

(talk) 17:13, 26 December 2021 (UTC) @Mike Marchmont, Hello! Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE it's fine to write a plot without inline citations, however they are sometimes...

with a heavy heart that I cut the kidney stone story—i'd have to rely on PLOTSOURCE to get that in there Can't access this source. "An enthusiastic litigator...

Generally, it's fine if you don't have a citation for the plot (as MOS:PLOTSOURCE describes). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC) Hello...

relevant to a specific article, use Template:Cite AV media. See also MOS:PLOTSOURCE. To create your WP:USERPAGE, click the redlinked "MikiBishop" in your...

perfectly valid. Dream Focus 10:57, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Keep As per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, it is acceptable to have no sourcing as it is assumed the work itself...

10 June 2022 (UTC) @Pizzarush: Welcome to the Teahouse. Per Wikipedia:PLOTSOURCE, plot sections do not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it...

which is verifiable. Name drop and redirect, no need for a source per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:30, 24 September 2018 (UTC)...

actually a section in the manual of style that talks about this: MOS:PLOTSOURCE. Basically the books themselves are considered primary sources and don't...

WP:GNG. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC) Comment Per WP:PLOTSOURCE no sources are required for plot and character summaries because it is...

lack of sourcing in the list article, I think the same rational as MOS:PLOTSOURCE can be used for verifiability (in that the game itself verifies the content)...

Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC) Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, plots and storyline sections do not need to be sourced. We can help source...

the same way that the episode itself sources the plot (WP:PLOTCITE / WP:PLOTSOURCE). These people are definitely credited in the episode. As for not mentioning...

19:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC) @Ficaia Yup, that is generally fine, see MOS:PLOTSOURCE. Like with everything else around here, sometimes discussion is needed...

Tim riley talk 19:11, 15 May 2019 (UTC) @Tim riley: Laying out @MOS:PLOTSOURCE, the plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need...

WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT -- Ficaia (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC) @Ficaia However, MOS:PLOTSOURCE is about works of fiction, which afaict this is not. WP:PRIMARY#5 may...

They should therefore be covered by the same concept as WP:CITEPLOT/WP:PLOTSOURCE I believe, in that the work itself serves as a primary source. Would it...

seems excessive. Removed. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC) MOS:PLOTSOURCE is a little ambiguous on whether the plot information in the lead needs...

April 2021 (UTC) It looks to me like the relevant guideline here is MOS:PLOTSOURCE, which says that plot citations are nice but not necessary. If secondary...

April 2021 (UTC) It looks to me like the relevant guideline here is MOS:PLOTSOURCE, which says that plot citations are nice but not necessary. If secondary...

opposed to citing Bible books to describe its own storylines, per WP:PLOTSOURCE) is that it passes off what the Bible says as being equally relevant as...

something uncontroversial. In fact, you don't even need to cite it. See MOS:PLOTSOURCE. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC) My question...

works. While a certain amount of MOS:PLOTSOURCE WP:OR is allowed, this article is nothing else than MOS:PLOTSOURCE WP:OR. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:14, 14 February...

section of a work of fiction usually does not require citation, per MOS:PLOTSOURCE: the film itself is assumed to be the source. I personally try to provide...

(and possibly a bit WP:PROMO). 2. Tricky. We have something called MOS:PLOTSOURCE, which doesn't really apply since that's about fiction. Secondary sources...

Tim riley talk 19:11, 15 May 2019 (UTC) @Tim riley: Laying out @MOS:PLOTSOURCE, the plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need...

(UTC) It's the policy against the manual of style, I suppose; see MOS:PLOTSOURCE. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC) In such circumstances...

on this? By comparison: For non-fiction there is a clear guideline, WP:PLOTSOURCE, which states: "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work...

at the improving the Hollyoaks characters. Also, per WP:SOAPS and MOS:PLOTSOURCE, storylines sections don't need to be sourced. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk)...

Launchballer, was under the impression that reality shows fall under WP:PLOTSOURCE. Which is correct? Do plot summaries for reality TV shows require in-line...

secondary sources. For fiction texts, there is a clear guideline, WP:PLOTSOURCE, that clarifies the acceptability of this custom. It seems as if there...

with a heavy heart that I cut the kidney stone story—i'd have to rely on PLOTSOURCE to get that in there Can't access this source. "An enthusiastic litigator...

straightforward application of the "plot summary" guidance (in particular: MOS:PLOTSOURCE), and the WP:PRIMARY policy (in particular, "A primary source may be used...

(UTC) Just a note - per the storylines guidelines at WP:SOAPS and per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, the storyline sections do not need sourcing, as watching the show acts...

February 2023 (UTC) This happens due to a bad rule that we have, called WP:PLOTSOURCE: The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need...

10:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC) I would echo Guerillero above, and note that MOS:PLOTSOURCE (which allows for the plot summaries of fictional books to be uncited...

but since the material would be fine even without citations per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, I'm not sure there's really an FAC criteria issue (although I'm not averse...

technically breaks WP:PLOTSOURCE, in that it gives a synopsis of a non-fiction book without actually including citations -- in theory, PLOTSOURCE applies only...

seems excessive. Removed. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC) MOS:PLOTSOURCE is a little ambiguous on whether the plot information in the lead needs...

something like List_of_Two_and_a_Half_Men_characters#Jake_Harper, MOS:PLOTSOURCE can be argued to apply. You can also make a cite like Gråbergs Gråa Sång...

have a feeling it is because readers believe that it is similar to WP:PLOTSOURCE as hence does not need a source, although that is not the case. DaniloDaysOfOurLives...

whether unsourced summaries of scriptural texts should be allowed under MOS:PLOTSOURCE. Something here could be as simple as the "copy homework" meme. Changing...

but unlikely. Indagate (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC) Comment Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. the plot/storyline sections do not need to be sourced, and it isn't uncommon...

explanation: While a certain amount of MOS:PLOTSOURCE WP:OR is allowed, this article is nothing else than MOS:PLOTSOURCE WP:OR. After 17 years, this article...

(talk) 22:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC) This is an inevitable result of MOS:PLOTSOURCE and WP:PLOTCITE, which I feel badly need revisiting, since they unacceptably...

SPELLNUM 180 DAB1 180 DABONE 180 DABORDER 180 DATE TIES 180 DERRY 180 PLOTSOURCE 180 NUMERAL 180 SENIOR 180 EXPLAINSYMBOLS 180 JRSR 180 SWT 180 JR 180...

episode reviews cited substantially treat the Leah character. Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, a plot synopsis does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as...

WP:NOTBROKEN and the series synopsis doesn't need a citation per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. The definition of "several" is more than two but not many, which seems...

Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC) Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, plots and storyline sections do not need to be sourced. We can help source...

other media sections solely rely on using the comics and the film as WP:PLOTSOURCE. This leaves only the Publication history section, but the majority of...

mentioning, then, yes, it can be its own source, along the lines of WP:PLOTSOURCE. ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC) Hi there. I updated my...

as anyone with access to the media can verify it themselves (à la MOS:PLOTSOURCE). That said, I wouldn't oppose making {{Cite AV media notes}} (or w/e...

primary source. This is addressed at MOS:FILMPLOT, WP:PLOTCITE, and MOS:PLOTSOURCE. InfiniteNexus (talk) 20:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC) That. Gråbergs Gråa...

the gameplay description of a video game falls under the guidance of WP:PLOTSOURCE, as it is analogous to the plot summary of a book; in that case "The plot...

doesn't make them entirely useless. 3:Yep, no WP:COPYPASTE, and see MOS:PLOTSOURCE. If you actually have sources for the plot, there's nothing wrong with...

edits 20:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC) @Vastmajority20025 Have you seen MOS:PLOTSOURCE? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2025 (UTC) Thank you @Gråbergs...

(talk) 14:21, 29 June 2023 (UTC) That is entirely normal, @1TWO3Writer. WP:PLOTSOURCE has the relevant guidance. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)...

StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 20:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC) StreetcarEnjoyer per WP:PLOTSOURCE plot itself doesn't have to be cited, and that presumably extends to descriptions...

I believe that this would semi-fall under the same guidelines as MOS:PLOTSOURCE (in that the information is sourced to the work itself). I can probably...

Wikipedia policy. Maurice Magnus (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC) WP:PLOTSOURCE says The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not...

verify the accuracy of the plot summary by viewing the work. See MOS:PLOTSOURCE – while quotations from the original work or secondary sources are helpful...

@OlifanofmrTennant: Done on everything except the plot summaries. MOS:PLOTSOURCE says "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not...

basis in policy, plot sections of articles do not require sources per WP:PLOTSOURCE. Incorrectly reverting edits is really harmful to the project - it upsets...

is pronounced? TurboSuperA+[talk] 03:50, 18 August 2025 (UTC) See WP:PLOTSOURCE and WP:PLOTCITE. But the TL;dr for plot summaries is that the movie or...

WP:CITE the Bible only for fairly uncontroversial stuff, such as MOS:PLOTSOURCE. If fail to see the difference between anti-Jewish and antisemitic, and...

They should therefore be covered by the same concept as WP:CITEPLOT/WP:PLOTSOURCE I believe, in that the work itself serves as a primary source. Would it...

whether unsourced summaries of scriptural texts should be allowed under MOS:PLOTSOURCE. — Republic TV (Republic World) WP:REPUBLICTVWP:REPUBLICTV 📌  2021 1...